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New threat of mass extinction, 'marine wipeout'
Irish Times ^
| Thursday, January 13, 2011
| DICK AHLSTROM
Posted on 01/18/2011 7:50:54 AM PST by The Comedian
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Anthropogenic Global Warming is BS, but I can certainly believe that over-fishing, chemical waste, Coreexit, and a host of other ocean-polluting events may have knocked off a couple of species from their previous locations in the food chain, starting a house-of-cards collapse.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
To: Quix; TaraP; little jeremiah; houeto; aragorn; null and void
Bio-collapse ping.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
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posted on
01/18/2011 7:52:48 AM PST
by
The Comedian
("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
To: The Comedian
This is most definitely something to be concerned about, but what is needed is solid data.
As Michael Crichton pointed out so brilliantly, we don’t really know how to control ecosystems, and our clumsy attempts to do so often make matters worse.
The answer, as always, is more knowledge, which requires a lot more research.
To: The Comedian
I suspect there has been a lot of attrition at the top of the oceanic food chain. As you know, Mossad training is incredibly difficult. I suspect that only a handful of
sharks complete Mossad training. Those that wash out simply *disappear*.
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posted on
01/18/2011 7:59:47 AM PST
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: The Comedian
. . .todays extinctions are a direct consequence of human activityTo that I say, so what? If one believes in evolution, then one must accept that extinctions are a natural part of the evolutionary process.
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:00:20 AM PST
by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
To: The Comedian
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
DUM DE DUM DUM
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:04:09 AM PST
by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: The Comedian
Wasn’t Jaques Cousteau predicting the death of the coral reef and thus the oceans in 20 years back in 1970?
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:08:18 AM PST
by
jrg
To: The Comedian
Hmmm.... I wonder if we could get this phenomenon to work on Democrats!
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:16:48 AM PST
by
April Lexington
(Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
To: The Comedian
Idiots, alarmists, and grant seeking psudeo-scientific grant parasites. Here's the chart:
We had nothing to do with it then and we have nothing to do with it now.
Period.
L
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:25:20 AM PST
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: The Comedian
We were camping on a lagoon in North Florida about 15 years ago and we saw an example of this problem. One morning a group of guys came in with rowboats and a mile of gill nets and completely encircled the whole lagoon - maybe 20 acres, with gill nets. It took them a whole day to net every living creature in the lagoon. They kept the legal fish and threw the by-catch back, but most of it was dead. They killed undersized snapper, grouper, crabs, flounder, white trout, sail cats, etc. that were caught in the net.
This went on every day all along the coast. It’s no wonder that species like mullet that were once so plentiful you could catch them in hand nets were almost wiped out.
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:27:05 AM PST
by
mbynack
(Retired USAF SMSgt)
To: The Comedian
Are DemonRats going extinct????????? Darn!
To: The Comedian
There is no doubt about it, the way we live puts 100’s of thousands of metric tons (perhaps millions) of toxic chemicals into our environment every day. Folks on this forum always laugh off mass deaths like the seal thread yesterday, I guess that’s the macho cool thing to do, but in the end, things are really pretty messed up.
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:30:21 AM PST
by
Scythian
To: The Comedian
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:31:29 AM PST
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
To: The Comedian
“...knocked off a couple of species from their previous locations in the food chain, starting a house-of-cards collapse. “
Can't happen that way. AS an example, we reduced the population of Blue Whales to nearly the point of extinction. These are the largest carnivores that have ever lived on earth, with adults weighing as much as 100 tons.
They fed on krill (Euphausia superba), a shrimp like critter found in immense quantities in the Antarctic Ocean. Despite the removal of the top carnivore in the entire history of the world, and the removal of many other whales, the only result was that many, many, many krill were not converted to whale scat.
When the whale population bred back, no change occurred, other than many krill again became whale scat.
Conclusion: The earth is composed of exceeding resilient ecosystems/habitats.
It is human civilization which is fragile. I suggest we concern ourselves with preserving the traditional American civilization, which is in danger.
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posted on
01/18/2011 8:31:43 AM PST
by
GladesGuru
(In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
To: The Comedian
Look for Obama to promise Hu that China will be allowed to send her fishing fleets to US waters as a monthly minimum
payment on the debt.
A global collapse in marine ecosystems gonna hit the Asians HARD baby!
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posted on
01/18/2011 9:04:00 AM PST
by
NeverForgetBataan
(To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
To: The Comedian
Over-fishing, I believe.
I try to eat primarily farm-raised fish.
And, yes, I know all the supposed horror stories. So don’t waste your breath.
I know the wild critters need that ocean to themselves, and I still want to eat fish. So farm them like chickens, cows, or whatever else, and feed the world protein.
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posted on
01/18/2011 9:09:43 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
To: GladesGuru
Anecdotal evidence. And two can play at that game.
The potato blight which caused the Irish famine and migration affected 1 plant in 1 country.
Of course, perhaps that backs up your assertion about the fragility of human civilization...
Conclusion: The earth is composed of exceeding resilient ecosystems/habitats.
Agreed. The problem is that the resiliency is achieved via dramatic contractions and expansions of niche organisms. And if a dramatic contraction results in the loss of a niche human diet staple, and is in turn filled by a non-edible alternative, entire human populations will starve to death.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
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posted on
01/18/2011 9:12:24 AM PST
by
The Comedian
("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
To: All
And while we've been discussing the marine extinction, this showed up:
Yankton Sees Bird Kill-Off
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
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posted on
01/18/2011 9:19:37 AM PST
by
The Comedian
("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
To: JoeProBono
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posted on
01/18/2011 9:23:09 AM PST
by
Dem Guard
(Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
To: JoeProBono
"Just remember that your standing on a planet that's evolving, and revolving at 900 miles an hour..."
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
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posted on
01/18/2011 10:22:40 AM PST
by
The Comedian
("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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