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To: metmom

You’re not going to make a dent in these misogynistic minds Metmom.


29 posted on 01/27/2011 6:06:16 PM PST by Shimmer1 (When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt.)
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To: Shimmer1

My daughters are hardly feminists, but I’d be thrilled for them to avoid that kind of mentality.

We don’t need it.


37 posted on 01/27/2011 6:18:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Shimmer1; metmom

Interesting how this thread became a debate over marriage. But I think it’s a good tangent to go down.

Pointing out the problems with legal marriage in the U.S. is germane and relevant here. This is a custody/parenting battle and the courts are getting dragged into it to make a value judgement. It’s not a Constitutional issue: there is no agreement between the two parties who would have the right to assert it. The court is getting asked to decide between the father’s and the mother’s approach to education and they’ve done so. We shouldn’t be surprised that they selected the government schools.

And it’s not misogyny to point out some obvious problems with state licensed marriage. While I think that everyone realizes that licensed marriage is an arrangement that primarily benefits women and children, the legal relationship has become so skewed in favor of women that men are basically avoiding it like the plague and recommending that other men do so as well. Which probably goes a long way toward explaining why over half of children born these days are illegitimate. Men have to say YES to licensed marriage at least once, and it would appear that large numbers have received the memo.

We can rail on about how this indicates the low quality of men, etc., etc., ad nauseum. But I would point out that we shouldn’t expect any rational person, male or female, to voluntarily enter into a legal arrangement that is profoundly skewed against their legal and economic interests should things head south.

While I personally don’t think that the death of licensed marriage is good for society, I would point out that there is a third way of avoiding a lot of the legal and economic disadvatages of licensed marriage: getting married in the religious sense but not bothering to get a marriage license from the state in the first place.


53 posted on 01/28/2011 4:55:37 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Palin 2012: Renew, Revive, and Restore)
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