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Are We Afraid of Single Pastors?
Out of Ur ^ | January 31, 2011 | Mark Almlie

Posted on 03/20/2011 7:03:47 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby

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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
Almost all pastors were single until the time of the Reformation.

1Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
21 posted on 03/20/2011 7:37:04 PM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

The true issue is not if your status is single or married, it’s all about HOW you live it.

And sometimes when the New Testament is speaking about the concern for someone of a particular status, and where they might be “tempted” in that status, the problem is not what they may do TO SOMEONE ELSE if so tempted, it’s about the danger to their own soul for accepting an erroneous behavior out of that temptation.

In terms of single or married, the risk of being tempted to err lies within the person, not their status; for clearly some may come to be more tempted to err if single and others if married.

G-d KNOWS everyone is unique in their own person-hood.

So again I repeat: The true issue is not if your status is single or married, it’s all about HOW you live it.


22 posted on 03/20/2011 7:40:16 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: sybilll

I’m not sure what area of the country the author is located.


23 posted on 03/20/2011 7:42:31 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

One of the qualifications for a pastor is that he rules his own house well, and has his children in hand (I Timothy 3:4).

Only way this *should* happen is if he is married or widowered. Otherwise, he’s a fornicator of some type, and not qualified for the ministry any more.

Really, it doesn’t get any simpler than that. It really doesn’t *matter* what “1500 years of church history” says about it - that is completely irrelevant. The Bible is what matters, not the erroneous practice of a lot of people who weren’t spiritually discerning.


24 posted on 03/20/2011 7:43:26 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: Wuli
So again I repeat: The true issue is not if your status is single or married, it’s all about HOW you live it.

Nonsense. For a man to fill the role of a pastor, one of the most basic, baseline requirements is that he leads his own family well. That requires him to have a family. If he doesn't, then there's no reason to think he can lead a church (I Tim. 3:5). There are a lot of single men who perhaps have exemplary personal lives - but that does not make them qualified for the pastorate. Seriously, the Scripture is pretty clear on this matter - I don't see what is so hard to figure out about it.

25 posted on 03/20/2011 7:47:05 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Oh, believe me- I agree with you. I’m 36 years old, Christian, and single.


26 posted on 03/20/2011 7:47:20 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: richmwill
I was told by a Pastor friend of mine that years ago Pentecostal churches strongly suggested marriage to their ordained Pastors, because the feeling was that if you were married, you wouldn’t fall into a sinful relationship with any female members of the congregation.

...not that being married has been a deterrent to wandering eyes, although it helps somewhat.

Single pastors, youth pastors more so, have to put up with imaginative/dramatic young women (maybe young men, too) who create problems for the pastor. Finding an assistant postion shouldn't be as difficult, maybe in a university town. IMO, it just depends on the congregation.

27 posted on 03/20/2011 7:49:13 PM PDT by madison10
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

A friend of mine was a Baptist minister and when his wife died they let him go. It was very sad. Imagine losing your wife and your pastorate.


28 posted on 03/20/2011 7:53:05 PM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
I see almost a schizophrenia in churches where they tell the singles to be content in their lot in life, yet they center most or all of their programming around marriage, children and family ministries. Single young women will attend a family-oriented church, but I don’t think as many single men will.

Frankly, I think the fundamental problem here is that so many people have this attitude that the church (which is local, btw) exists to service their particular needs, as if it were a smorgasbord where they get to take what they like and leave the rest.

That's not the way it should be. The church belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is HIS church. It exists to honour and exalt HIM, not entertain and meet the "niche needs" of this group, that group, or the other group. Indeed, if taken too far, the demand for "niche groups" within a church is simply division and heresy (the true meaning of that word) since it is dividing the body of Christ into a bunch of different sets of people who each think that the church exists just to cater to their particular station in life. It doesn't. The church exists to fulfill the work of holding up Christ before the world and fulfilling the great commission. People serve the Lord in the church - together AS a church.

29 posted on 03/20/2011 7:53:57 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

So Catholics want you to not be married and Protestants want you to be married?

I am a single 50 year old male and have been divorced for 20 years. My ex had an affair and it ended in divorce. Unfortunately, I feel very uncomfortable going to church as a single man my age. I am a Christian and, unfortunately, I am not attending church right now. I sort of feel dysfunctional not being married and having the average 2.2 kids.

The marriage thing is sort of funny. Peter is considered by Catholics to be their first pope. Peter was married but they don’t allow their priest to be married. If it was okay with Jesus, I believe it should be okay with the Catholic church. Unfortunately, doctrine created by men and what is Biblical is oftened blurred.

I can understand concerns some folks would have about a single pastor. Every church has families that have marital issues. A lot of the married men may feel uncomfortable with their wives meeting a single man. That’s not me but just a reality. I know the Rev. Billy Graham went to great lengths not to be put in uncomfortable predicaments with women.

I feel the need for a good church too and I don’t think I’d have any issues with you being my pastor.

I really do hope you find a church that is great for you.


30 posted on 03/20/2011 7:55:42 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
Is it biblical?

Well, his analysis was pretty weak on Biblical texts for his presupposition. Christ was God. Paul was the revelator and (even he says) specially gifted although I am given to understand that being a Pharisee actually deemed marriage a requirement and Paul's assumed spouse probably left or died before/during his conversion. Actually, Paul, in the NT does list marriage as a requirement for several positions in the church including Pastor. Of course, since the author cites tradition and history as the spine of his case, well, what the heck, why does he even ask about Biblical standards?
31 posted on 03/20/2011 7:56:46 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I want a pastor who is humble before God, and desires to be true to the word of God with all his heart.

I do not want a pastor who has it in his head to do something, and so reworks the word of God to justify his desires. It’s an attitude problem that will lead to big trouble at some point.


32 posted on 03/20/2011 7:58:08 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

So is singleness a gift?


33 posted on 03/20/2011 8:01:26 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
So is singleness a gift?

In some cases, it can be. But it's not a gift that qualifies someone for the pastorate.

34 posted on 03/20/2011 8:02:43 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: yarddog

Our church extended a call to a young single pastor. Within two years, he had married a single young lady in the congregation.


35 posted on 03/20/2011 8:03:33 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: boycott

There are Biblically sound churches with successful singles ministries of long standing. Off the top of my head, the Vineyard Church. They may or may not be your theological cup of tea, they lean somewhat Pentecostal. But, they’re out there. Give it a look. No need to soldier on without fellowship because you’re single.


36 posted on 03/20/2011 8:04:26 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I Tim. 3:5 — For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?


I don’t believe a man has to be married to know how to rule his own house. Ruling your own house can relate to many things other than just marriage.

Additionally, some of the disciples Jesus chose were single. Therefore, I am okay with it.


37 posted on 03/20/2011 8:04:56 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Those comments appear to be speaking as to the qualities of an overseer, or deacon who is married and do not make an injunction against being single; if they did, then Paul himself, as well as many others could NOT have been leaders in the early church.


38 posted on 03/20/2011 8:08:27 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: boycott
I don’t believe a man has to be married to know how to rule his own house. Ruling your own house can relate to many things other than just marriage.

Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Your house is your family, and further v. 5 SPECIFICALLY links this to the raising of children. Given what the Scripture actually says, what exactly is that you imagine these "other things" might be?

Additionally, some of the disciples Jesus chose were single. Therefore, I am okay with it.

Which ones, and how do you know they were single? The only disciple for whose marital status we're actually told is Peter - and he was married. Anything beyond that is just unsubstantiated speculation - a flimsy basis on which to build any doctrine.

39 posted on 03/20/2011 8:09:05 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

If you are a good preacher and communicator, any church that hears you will forget their preference for a married preacher. Paul told Timothy not to let people tell him he was too young to preach. Well, we can’t control what others think or say, but we have the option of keeping our eyes on Christ, doing what he leads us to do, and doing it with all our might. So, ask for the opportunity to deliver a sermon, and to be chosen based on your preaching abilities, not marital status.


40 posted on 03/20/2011 8:09:23 PM PDT by Joyell
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