[Logic n' Reason]

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. ...

What??? "in the clouds"??? (Damn sure this here rapture ain't gonna be over a desert!)

What??? "in the air"???

Given the opportunity to think for themselves, one would have a very very difficult time selling this kind of myth/fairy tale to a 5 year old.

Complete and utter nonsense...

[Quix]

I’ve never had any respect at all

for folks or perspectives

who

label

ALMIGHTY GOD’S WORD

as

“Complete and utter nonsense...”

[aruanan]

Logic n' Reason

Ha ha. Logic only guarantees you will get from premises to conclusion in such a way that the conclusion will be valid. It doesn't mean the conclusion will be true. Logic doesn't guarantee truth, only consistency.

Axioms in math and geometry aren't a product of logic. Even logic isn't a product of logic. And you can't connect all areas of truth by the same train of logic. You can't even do this in math.

Reality exists apart from logic and reason. You may be able to use them to tease out useful information from the welter of your experience but you shouldn't mistake the product of that process for reality itself.

Given the opportunity to think for themselves, one would have a very very difficult time selling this kind of myth/fairy tale to a 5 year old.

Same for entangled photons. Same for superstring theory. Same for base 5 arithmetic. Same for hydraulics. Same for almost anything outside the knowledge and experience of a 5 year old (think of how they react when they ask where they came from and are given a technically correct description of human reproduction). What someone believes or finds unbelievable doesn't necessarily have anything to do with reality. Think of the absurdity of what you're saying with the example of a five year old: "The five year old would have a very difficult time believing something like this, therefore, there is a necessary and corresponding degree of unlikelihood in the proposition being true." Since when does the judgment of a five-year-old become the sine qua non of judging the validity of a proposition? You're making some fundamental errors both in philosophy and epistemology.

Back to school for you.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Two men in Scripture, Enoch and Elijah, never experienced death but were taken up into Heaven by God alive and well and fully conscious. Jesus Christ was taken into Heaven, fully alive and fully aware.

It's extremely risky and not too smart to take something God has decreed will happen and call it "nonsense".

Especially when He has done it before. Three times.