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Army announces carbine competition details
Black Rifle.net ^
| Jan. 31, 2011
| Lance M. Bacon
Posted on 04/05/2011 8:02:14 AM PDT by re_tail20
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:02:18 AM PDT
by
re_tail20
To: re_tail20
6.8mm SPC all the way baby!
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:04:16 AM PDT
by
Perdogg
(What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
To: re_tail20
I wanna introduce you to a personal friend of mine. This is an M41A pulse rifle. Ten millimeter with over-and-under thirty millimeter pump action grenade launcher.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:08:49 AM PDT
by
edpc
(Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
To: edpc
I love the smell of enemy/terrorists’ destruction in the morning :-)
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:10:19 AM PDT
by
Trajan88
(www.bullittclub.com)
To: re_tail20
“It will be at least a 500-meter weapon and have a higher incapacitation percentage’
Which rules out the standard 5.56 caliber.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:12:30 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: re_tail20
I hope they go back to .308 rather than the .223 poodle-shooter round. The “more rounds for less weight” argument made sense before battle robots. Let Big Dog or his descendants carry the ammo, and let the infantryman or soldier do the shooting.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:12:38 AM PDT
by
backwoods-engineer
(Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
To: Perdogg
6.5 Grendel is superior in every way.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:18:54 AM PDT
by
Durus
(You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
To: re_tail20
Rock River LAR-8 Elite Operator in 7.62 x 51 NATO. One bad mother soon to join the arsenal of Darth Vader!
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:20:08 AM PDT
by
DarthVader
(That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
To: backwoods-engineer
Add lard lube and I am soooooo there!
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:20:42 AM PDT
by
null and void
(We are now in day 803 of our national holiday from reality. - That 3 AM phone call? Voicemail...)
To: Perdogg
Well, according to the article “No caliber restriction has been placed on a new design. It will be at least a 500-meter weapon and have a higher incapacitation percentage”
That rules out 5.56 and the brass still thinks that 7.62 is too heavy ... so something in the 6 - 7 range is likely to be the choice.
I personally favor 7 x 51 (7-08 Remington) but the 6.8 SPC would do just fine.
To: backwoods-engineer
Army special-ops and some Rangers are getting the 7.62NATO
SCAR-H. Eventually it may be available to regular units. The 5.56 SCAR-L variant has been effectively canceled since it didn't offer enough improvement over the M-4.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:27:24 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
To: PapaBear3625
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:29:52 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
To: PapaBear3625
An excellent weapon. Well made, reliable and powerful. No suprise to me.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:30:45 AM PDT
by
DarthVader
(That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
To: re_tail20
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:30:56 AM PDT
by
Daffynition
(DBKP ~ Death By 1000 Papercuts)
To: re_tail20
I’ll believe it when I see it. The military keeps studying alternatives to the M-4 and then cancels the programs after spending millions.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:31:51 AM PDT
by
mbynack
(Retired USAF SMSgt)
To: Durus
I know the 6.5 projectile works better than paper ballistics would suggest in the 6.5X55 rifle. The Grendel should be an excellent round.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:37:01 AM PDT
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: re_tail20
Using standard m4 uppers and lowers, add an 18" barrel with a full length gas system in 6.5 Grendel, Nickel-Boron bolt, ambi safety, magpul type bolt release, ambi mag release, ambi charging handle, UBR stock, flash suppressor/can combo, and add Optics to taste. This combination is going to be more accurate than all the piston rifles that will be presented, as well as being every bit as reliable. Old Mags will be reusable with modification. Round count is 25 as opposed to 30 in a standard mag.
Not only would this option be financially prudent it would also be the best battle rifle fielded by anyone anywhere. Which I think should be the point.
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:40:03 AM PDT
by
Durus
(You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
To: re_tail20
I heard the democrat leadership organized a committee to compete for the Army contract. The design committee, it was said, was given UNprecedented freedom to think. They received only one directive from party bosses that cannot be ignored: The barrel must be U-shaped.
To: MurrietaMadman
Ehhh,, at one time when the army was interested in killing the enemy the standard was 30-06 and .45acp. I imagine a carbine design with 30-06 as a round could be effective at the specified ranges and strangely enough they have a crap load of it in surplus inventory.
To: TheGarbone
Yuo can’t go wrong with any of the Holy Trinity:
FN-FAL
M14
HK93
Honorable mention - M1 Garand.
I’m a FAL and Garand rifleman. Even at my age and condition, I can still shoot in the low to nid 240s on the AQT. Good enough to knock a blue helmet or a turban off an enemy head at 500 yards.
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posted on
04/05/2011 9:14:16 AM PDT
by
Noumenon
("How do we know when the Government is like that guy with the van and the handcuffs?" --Henry Bowman)
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