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Army Secretary Sees New Carbine to Replace M4
Kit Up ^ | March 31, 2010 | Christian Lowe

Posted on 04/08/2011 9:58:52 AM PDT by re_tail20

Kit Up spoke with Army Secretary John McHugh this morning at a round table interview with top defense scribes in DC.

I pinged him on the glacial pace of the improved carbine program (the replacement or redesign of the M4) and he seemed to indicate that while he sees the program as proceeding apace — given the requirements and bureaucratic hurdles with such a massive change — the end result will be a "replacement" of the M4, not just a revamped version, say, with a gas piston operating system or tweaked components.

We have a two part plan to over time replace the M4 with the next variant, whatever that may be. … We are working the requirements for a [request for proposals] for an eventual replacement of the M4 and a new generation of personal carbine.

Now, you'll remember that my friend Matt Cox over at Army Times got his hands on a briefing slide circulated by PEO Soldier Brig. Gen. Pete Fuller on the Hill showing the near-term improvements the service planned to make to the M4, including a heavier barrel, improved trigger pull, a gas piston system and ambidextrous controls.

A lot of gun watchers think this is a straw man that the Army will erect to impede the fielding of a real replacement for the M4 — that there's a large institutional pull in the service to wait until that "leap ahead" technology presents itself for a full-on replacement of the standard-issue carbine. I did sense some frustration with PM-level officials that this requirements process was getting bogged down (particularly on the subcompact weapon) and that some folks were impeding the process.

Not so, says McHugh:

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: banglist; m4
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To: archy

I’m guessing the suppressor that envelopes the barrel. Saw one the other day that really impressed me. It had a sleeve inside that came out, split into two pieces and then the interior actual suppressing apparatus was a third piece. Can’t imagine anything easier to clean. All told there were six pieces.


41 posted on 04/15/2011 1:17:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: archy

Found it on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAg4mi-cPHY&feature=related


42 posted on 04/15/2011 1:28:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: B4Ranch
I’m guessing the suppressor that envelopes the barrel. Saw one the other day that really impressed me. It had a sleeve inside that came out, split into two pieces and then the interior actual suppressing apparatus was a third piece. Can’t imagine anything easier to clean. All told there were six pieces.

Looks like a nice little can. I don't know how many pieces my old Sionics .45 can had, hundreds, I suppose, if you count all the brass boot grommets it used as *random baffles* that most users replaced with a wrapped section of brass screen cloth.

43 posted on 04/16/2011 2:21:56 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: B4Ranch
I’m guessing the suppressor that envelopes the barrel.

Known in the biz as a Reflex suppressor, as per the Finnish designs of J. Hartikka, pioneered in Europe by BR Tuote.

The one they make for the M107/M87 Barrett .50 rifles is the most effective I've tried, and gives me some interesting thoughts about the 20mm Lahti.

44 posted on 04/16/2011 2:40:41 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Terabitten

That’s basically what the FN P90 is.


45 posted on 06/15/2011 11:45:16 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Terabitten

Haven’t you just described a P90?


46 posted on 06/15/2011 11:50:30 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ctdonath2

GMTA!


47 posted on 06/15/2011 11:51:03 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SJSAMPLE
The FN SCAN, in both Light and Heavy versions, is out there NOW. You can buy one at a gun show, store or order one on-line.

Or pick up a slightly-used FN-2000 from a dead Libyan Army Loyalist. Sometimes, "combat-proven+ is not a good thing.


48 posted on 06/16/2011 1:36:59 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy

I really, really wanted one of those for a while, but a buddy bought one and after firing one, I thought it was a bit bulky and not nearly as ergonomic as the AUG. That model in the picture as all the bells and whistles. Nice.


49 posted on 06/16/2011 1:45:07 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Terabitten

American 180

http://www.elmfg.com/am180/articles/mgn12-95.html


50 posted on 06/16/2011 2:17:57 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: ctdonath2; Still Thinking

More or less a P90. Nothing wrong with that gun.


51 posted on 06/16/2011 7:07:49 PM PDT by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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