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Andres Serrano's picture of Christ suspended in urine is destroyed in France
American Thinker ^ | 04/19/2011 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/19/2011 7:13:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I thought that this topic might make for a lively debate in the comments.

Artist Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ" photo has caused more anguish, more anger that just about any piece of art in American history. Yesterday, while on display in France, it was destroyed by a fundamentalist Christian group:

Controversy has followed the work ever since, but reached an unprecedented peak on Palm Sunday when it was attacked with hammers and destroyed after an "anti-blasphemy" campaign by French Catholic fundamentalists in the southern city of Avignon.

The violent slashing of the picture, and another Serrano photograph of a meditating nun, has plunged secular France into soul-searching about Christian fundamentalism and Nicolas Sarkozy's use of religious populism in his bid for re-election next year.

It also marks a return to an old standoff between Serrano and the religious right that dates back more than 20 years, to Reagan-era Republicanism in the US.

The photograph, full title Immersion (Piss Christ), was made in 1987 as part of Serrano's series showing religious objects submerged in fluids such as blood and milk. In 1989, rightwing Christian senators' criticism of Piss Christ led to a heated US debate on public arts funding. Republican Jesse James told the senate Serrano was "not an artist. He's a jerk."

Serrano defended his photograph as a criticism of the "billion-dollar Christ-for-profit industry" and a "condemnation of those who abuse the teachings of Christ for their own ignoble ends". It was vandalised in Australia, and neo-Nazis ransacked a Serrano show in Sweden in 2007.

Inevitable comparisons with fundamentalist Muslims by secularists are wrong. Destroying a piece of art is not the same as rioting and murdering innocents and only a moral relativist would make such a wrongheaded argument.

But there are other disturbing aspects to this controversy that need addressing. Did the French Christians have a right to destroy it? Art, as we learned when growing up, is in the eye of the beholder. You and I might not see eye to eye on whether Serrano's hateful photo was "art" or not, but does that give you the right to destroy it? And if not, isn't it suppressing free speech?

Interesting thing about free speech; you either have it, or you don't. Serrano had a million other ways to express his disaffection with the charlatans, the TV evangelist fakirs in Christian ministries that are set up to serve Mammom and not God. He can be criticized for his horrible artistic choice in expressing this view, but we have no right to tell him how to express it.

We can show our displeasure by refusing to attend his shows, urge others not to buy his art, show up wherever he appears in public and peacefully protest, and a hundred other actions we can take - including defunding the government program that paid him to display it.

But we can't destroy what many consider to be art. There is no "majority rule" in judging artistic expression. There is no threshold of support that an artist must cross before his work is protected as legitimate expression. The French vandals were dead wrong in destroying the work. Their attack was an assault on free speech itself - something we either have, or don't. The vandals say we don't. I say we do, and consequently, must condemn all such acts - whether performed by the Taliban or fundamentalist Christians - as an attack on our most cherished beliefs.

Living in a free society is not easy. Destroying art makes it even harder.



TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: andresserrano; art; pisschrist
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1 posted on 04/19/2011 7:13:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If someone paints a swastika on a synagogue is it art?


2 posted on 04/19/2011 7:17:46 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

Typical Liberal response :

“Who are we to decide what is and isn’t art or music or culture?

One man’s meat is another man’s poison.”


3 posted on 04/19/2011 7:19:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
This may have been wrong, but since nobody got hurt it might not be a bad thing. Liberals are inherently passive aggressive. Like a spoiled child they will push until you push back. So they got push back harder than was absolutely necessary. But we must push back. The Muslims have learned that if the push back and push back hard the libs won't mess with them no matter what they do. While I don't advocate violence I do advocate “Creative” protests. Make their lives miserable and they will stop messing with us. Once being a rebel stops being fun only the most committed will remain. And people with that level of commitment are few in number.
4 posted on 04/19/2011 7:20:41 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Try burning a koran and calling it art...


5 posted on 04/19/2011 7:24:12 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind

Big Gulp - $1
Mason Jar - $1.25
Crucifix - $3
Pissing people off and getting a government grant ordaining you as an “artist” - Priceless


6 posted on 04/19/2011 7:26:02 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: SeekAndFind
Destroying art makes it even harder.

Art? sounds like government funded "art"

7 posted on 04/19/2011 7:26:06 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15: 1-4)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is ok with me...it’s almost as good as “cleaning the temple”. Let’s see how the lib-Godless spin it... We,
as Chritians, are, many times, too complacent in defending the most important thing in our life...Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The God who made everything. Happy Easter.


8 posted on 04/19/2011 7:30:24 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMhoA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The POS...

This *artist* is no more unusual than FR posters who *claim* to be Christians, are mendacious, contemptible, gossip, stalk, continually pull stuff out of their @sses, and spread lies? Hypocrites.

9 posted on 04/19/2011 7:31:16 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Let's see if they call it art if we put a photo of Obama in a jar of urine then take a photo of it and display it proudly.

OOOOOOOH, would we be hated for that!

10 posted on 04/19/2011 7:32:35 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Did anyone attempt to sever the head of the ‘artist?’
11 posted on 04/19/2011 7:32:53 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just as having the right to “free speech” does not guarantee a forum in which to speak it, the freedom of expression as an artist does not (or should not) guarantee you the audience, nor the means to create your art. This is precisely why government should not fund would-be “artists” for this kind of work.


12 posted on 04/19/2011 7:35:08 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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RE: Did anyone attempt to sever the head of the ‘artist?’

Nope. This is a picture of Christ, not Muhammad.


13 posted on 04/19/2011 7:35:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: GonzoGOP

Liberals are very much like unruly teenagers.
They are not mature enough to consider the consequences of their actions, and usually have those consequences alleviated by others.

And, the way to deal with unruly teenagers is to rebuke them harshly (1 Thess 5:14) but patiently. As one father put it, when they keep escalating their unruliness, you come down disproportionately on them to make sure they remember to stay in line.


14 posted on 04/19/2011 7:37:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: 2banana

Try a cartoon of hooded KKK and a black man at the end of a noose.


15 posted on 04/19/2011 7:37:26 AM PDT by anton
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To: SeekAndFind

Why are non-Christians depicting Christians as meek when Jesus himself fashioned a whip and kicked the living sh*t out of the vendors who turned His Dad’s place into a mess?


16 posted on 04/19/2011 7:38:32 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sure this artist’s next “work” will be something like

Muhammed riding a bucking pig in a rodeo... right?


17 posted on 04/19/2011 7:38:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Andreas, looks like you ended up with a piece of performance art. Way to go.


18 posted on 04/19/2011 7:39:20 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: SeekAndFind

This is done to “stick it in your face, Christians” and then gloat about how “brave” and avant-garde the “artist” is for having created this trash, called it “art” and publicly displayed it. Imagine the reaction if Serrano had done this to an object of veneration in the Islamic world; the museum would have been dismantled, brick by brick. Thus, I don’t think we’ll see real “bravery” on his part; devout Muslims don’t particularly like a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.


19 posted on 04/19/2011 7:46:34 AM PDT by laconic
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To: SeekAndFind

It wasn’t destroyed. It was ‘de-constructed’.


20 posted on 04/19/2011 8:23:02 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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