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Does anyone want to be "well-read?"
www.rogerebert.com ^ | 04/16/11 | Roger Ebert

Posted on 04/21/2011 2:43:04 PM PDT by Borges

"Death disports with writers more cruelly than with the rest of humankind," Cynthia Ozick wrote in a recent issue of The New Republic.

"The grave can hardly make more mute those who were voiceless when alive--dust to dust, muteness to muteness. But the silence that dogs the established writer's noisy obituary, with its boisterous shock and busy regret, is more profound than any other.

"Oblivion comes more cuttingly to the writer whose presence has been felt, argued over, championed, disparaged--the writer who is seen to be what Lionel Trilling calls a Figure. Lionel Trilling? "Consider: who at this hour (apart from some professorial specialist currying his "field") is reading Mary McCarthy, James T. Farrell, John Berryman, Allan Bloom, Irving Howe, Alfred Kazin, Edmund Wilson, Anne Sexton, Alice Adams, Robert Lowell, Grace Paley, Owen Barfield, Stanley Elkin, Robert Penn Warren, Norman Mailer, Leslie Fiedler, R.P. Blackmur, Paul Goodman, Susan Sontag, Lillian Hellman, John Crowe Ransom, Stephen Spender, Daniel Fuchs, Hugh Kenner, Seymour Krim, J.F. Powers, Allen Ginsberg, Philip Rahv, Jack Richardson, John Auerbach, Harvey Swados--or Trilling himself?"

I read through this list with dismay. I have read all but two of those writers, love some, and met five. Yet I know with a sinking feeling that Ozick asks the correct question. Who at this hour is reading them? Paul Goodman, whose books so deeply influenced and formed me? Edmund Wilson, a role model? James Farrell, whose naturalistic Studs Lonigan evoked a decade of Chicago life? Mailer, who boasted he had beaten all of his contemporaries?

How many of them have you read? Some, I suspect, but they belong to your past. Most of you will have read Ginsberg's "Howl," but how much more of his poetry? I have his collected poems on my shelf, but don't care to take them down. Whitman's poems, on the other hand, are at the side of my chair and I read one every morning. I have every one of Edmund Wilson's books, in the sublimely uniform Farrar Strauss & Giroux editions. Who cites him? Susan Sontag? Remembered for defining Camp.

The occasion for Ozick's sad litany was her review of the letters of Saul Bellow, the one figure among all those contemporaries she believes is still read and will endure. For the same magazine many years ago, James Atlas wrote an argument that the search for the Great American Novel can end, because Bellow's The Adventures of Augie March is that book.

Yes, Saul Bellow is still read, and I am still reading him, and I confess I have no plans to return to any of the other authors on her list in whatever time I have remaining. I have, however, recently started reading The Ambassadors by Henry James for the third time. Soon I plan my third journey through Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy, another author I believe will endure.

I have always read for pleasure. I once thought I might be a professor of English, and made it through one year of PhD study at the University of Chicago before recognizing that film criticism had captured me full time. I was not congenitally a good student, but I was influenced by my teachers as role models. In graduate school at Illinois I had one of the great Shakespeare scholars, G. Blakemore Evans, general editor of the Riverside Shakespeare. I'd read Julius Caesar and Macbeth in high school, and then not another word until I entered his classroom. It was clear Evans knew Shakespeare and loved him. Visiting his office, so filled with musty volumes, I was captured by the romance of his occupation, started reading Shakespeare with a passion and never stopped--always using my worn-out Riverside edition, although I have three or four others.

I've written before about the mentor of my undergraduate years, Daniel Curley, he of the corduroy pants, Sears boots and rucksack. In English 101 he assigned us Dostoyevsky, Flaubert, Fitzgerald, Faulkner, James, Forster, Cather, Wharton, Joyce, Hemingway. I still read all of them. In 1960, he told us, 'What will last of Hemingway's work are the short stories and The Sun Also Rises.' Half a century later, I would say he was correct.

My first exposure to Henry James was the short story "The Real Thing." I thought no one had ever written sentences so obdurate and baffling. They had the fluency of a crossword puzzle. By the time I arrived at The Ambassadors, I was beginning to catch on. His sentences are a labyrinth of diffident but precise observation. In their construction is the creation of character; in their reluctance to boldly state something, we feel the reality of what goes unsaid.

Having read Great Expectations under some duress in high school, I went through seven years of college without ever encountering Dickens again. It was in about 1980 that I signed up for the Folio edition of Dickens, picked up Nicholas Nickleby, and was hooked. No one is more compulsively readable. But I had to come to that myself. Oddly, I started sooner on Trollope. "He is such a consolation," Curley told me one day in a London pub. "During the London Blitz, Trollope enjoyed an enormous popularity." Where should I start? I asked. "Oh, with the Barsetshire novels, I should say."

That's how I've done my reading: Haphazardly, by inclination. I consider myself well read, but there has been no plan. Reading Cynthia Ozick's article brought me up short: I realized I knew almost every writer she was referring to, and I realized they were no longer read. In deciding to begin this piece with the list of all the names in its second paragraph, I realized I would probably alienate many readers. I decided that was all right. This would only be of interest to those who knew a name or two.

All right, then. Bellow has lasted and may continue to last. Setting aside living writers, who is still read? I speak of considerable writers, not potboilers. Dickens, George Eliot, Austen and Trollope, and then some people get to Mrs. Gaskell. Dostoyevsky, Chekhov and Tolstoy. Kafka. Balzac, Flaubert, Stendhal and Hugo. Poe. Mark Twain. James and Wharton. The big four Americans of the first half-century, Cather, Hemingway, Faulkner and Fitzgerald. The smaller Americans, Chandler, Steinbeck, Hammett. John O'Hara? Not so much. Sinclair Lewis? Not at all. Nabokov. From Britain, Conrad, Evelyn Waugh, Greene, Forster. Anthony Powell, Iris Murdoch, Virginia Woolf, Orwell, Wodehouse. From France, Georges Simenon endures and Camus hangs on. From South America, Borges and Marquez.

I do not mean to make a list. Many names and entire nations are missing. You will find those writers you enjoy, and value them. I have been in a little discussion recently about how readable Beckett's plays are. Every month or so someone pops up who has discovered Willa Cather and fallen under her vision. There are certain books that are milestones in my reading. I've been going through the 12 volumes of Powell's A Dance to the Music of Time again. Later this year I will again pick up Paul Scott's The Raj Trilogy. On my shelf The Cairo Trilogy by Mahfouz is waiting.

There is no pattern. My only goal is to enjoy reading. I learn that he average American teenager spends 17 minutes a weekend in voluntary reading. Surely that statistic is wrong. Do they mean reading of "serious" novels? I would certainly count science fiction, graphic novels, vampires, Harry Potter, newspapers, magazines, blogs--anything. Just to read for yourself for pleasure is the point. Dickens will come later, Henry James perhaps never.

At the end of the day, some authors will endure and most, including some very good ones, will not. Why do I think reading is important? It is such an effective medium between mind and mind. We think largely in words. A medium made only of words doesn't impose the barrier of any other medium. It is naked and unprotected communication. That's how you get pregnant. May you always be so.


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To: Borges

Again, I didn’t say it was literature. So stop erecting a strawman.


41 posted on 04/21/2011 3:39:22 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: discostu
Henry Jame is dull.

Yes, Henry Jame was dull.

But not Henry James.

42 posted on 04/21/2011 3:39:48 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Borges

Steinbeck, for example. He sucks. His writing style is ok, but I don’t care for his material.

Thoreau (and the rest of the Transcendentalists, for that matter) - totally irrelevant, to me.

Clancy and Clive Cussler - brilliant writers, to me.


43 posted on 04/21/2011 3:39:54 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: discostu
It's not just literati, it's other writers. He's probably the most influential writer of the 20th century...Faulkner, Virginia Woolf, Pynchon, Foster Wallace all inconcievable without him. And who cares if he was a drinker? That has no bearing on reading ‘The Dead’ which is very precisely crafted and bears no signs of carelessness.
44 posted on 04/21/2011 3:40:56 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Retired Greyhound

It’s not like Steinbeck is top tier to begin with. Walden is beautifully written and very funny. Thoreau’s fans don’t really have the sense of humor that he had. He did not glorify nature the way people think he did.


45 posted on 04/21/2011 3:42:29 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

When asked to describe which books I have read; my response is;

“Why read when I can write”.


46 posted on 04/21/2011 3:42:51 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: Borges
Who reads Roger Ebert?

I dropped off somewhere on the way down the article, around "My first exposure to Henry James was the short story 'The Real Thing' ..." which made me think Roger was quite full of himself.

After that it's just too much information about someone I try to remain blissfully unaware of:

Having read Great Expectations under some duress in high school, I went through seven years of college without ever encountering Dickens again. It was in about 1980 that I signed up for the Folio edition of Dickens, picked up Nicholas Nickleby, and was hooked. No one is more compulsively readable. But I had to come to that myself. Oddly, I started sooner on Trollope. "He is such a consolation," Curley told me one day in a London pub. "During the London Blitz, Trollope enjoyed an enormous popularity." Where should I start? I asked. "Oh, with the Barsetshire novels, I should say."

Blah, blah, blah, to the point of self-parody. I'd say "Die already, you pretentious name-dropper!" but given Roger's health problems that could be considered cruel.

Sure, if people still do read, their interest in writers drops off drastically when the writers die and aren't producing any longer. A few writers are picked up again and added to the canon, but no one is as dead as most recently dead writers.

Ebert's wrong though. Critics like Trilling, Wilson, and even Fiedler and Kazin are still read -- if only because people who are expected to know about dead poets and novelists can avoid reading them by looking up what dead critics have said about them. If you have to appear well read, you can get away without reading Mailer or Farrell or Elkin or whoever, if you can dig up what reviewers wrote about them in their own time.

If there is an afterlife it must be very painful to the shade of Alfred Kazin to go from being so talked about to being so obscure, but I'm not aware that Trilling has been forgotten yet. Even Edmund Wilson gets reviewed when new biographies and collections of his work come out. The periodicals he wrote for The New Yorker and The New Republic have an interest in keeping Wilson's name from falling into complete oblivion: they keep him (ever so slightly) alive, because he makes them look good.

47 posted on 04/21/2011 3:43:53 PM PDT by x
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To: ClearCase_guy

I haven’t read any of Ebert’s ‘authors’. I consider myself fortunate.


48 posted on 04/21/2011 3:45:03 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi

Never read Shakespeare, Dickents or Twain eh?


49 posted on 04/21/2011 3:46:18 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Of course most of them are in that group of writers only read by the literati. The problem isn’t that Joyce was a drinker, the problem is that he wrote drunk and wrote like drunks talk, rambling, incomprehensible and pointless. Oh yeah “The Dead” from Dubliners, featuring “An Encounter” a story about kids running into a pervert who jerks off in front of them, indeed high literature everyone should read that. Yeah, that was sarcasm.


50 posted on 04/21/2011 3:47:13 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: KarlInOhio

I’ve enjoyed Paradise Lost Immensely.


51 posted on 04/21/2011 3:47:25 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: discostu

Um, those are fairly popular writers who can be found in abundant stock at just about any chain book store. Foster Wallace is huge with hipsters as well as Literati. ‘The Dead’ might be the best short story ever written in English. There’s nothing rambling or incomprehensible about it. And even Ulysses does indeed have a point. You just have to know what he was after.


52 posted on 04/21/2011 3:50:32 PM PDT by Borges
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To: discostu; Borges

Once upon a time, “well-read” meant Plato and Cicero.

Now, most of what people refer to as “great” literature seems to come out of the 19th and 20th centuries, which is when the world began to lose it’s damn mind philosophically.

For me, well-read means John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Adam Smith, Montesquieu, Frederich Hayek, Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell, and Walter Williams.

(I also love C.S. Lewis).


53 posted on 04/21/2011 3:50:55 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Retired Greyhound

Heh, I haven’t read her at all. They’ll be a Cervantes, but it’s not her.


54 posted on 04/21/2011 3:51:44 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Retired Greyhound

You should add Evelyn Waugh, Walter M. Miller, G.K. Chesterton, and Tolkein to your list.


55 posted on 04/21/2011 3:53:02 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Retired Greyhound

The rise of English Lit. as a field of study coincides with patriotic gestures during the two World Wars when Classical Studies - being so associated with stuffy German Philology Professors - became unfashionable.


56 posted on 04/21/2011 3:53:35 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Retired Greyhound
On Harry Potter;

There are plenty of flaws in the series, including plot holes big enough to hold a train, however, Rowling is phenomenally gifted in the area of character creation. The characters in Harry Potter, even the minor ones, are remarkably well rounded and deep. They have histories, motivations, fears and desires that are consistent and create a compelling world. In the novels, you believe the characters are alive. In comparison, Tom Clancy characters tend to be very flat and wooden. The plots are well thought out, but the characters themselves seem to simply be vehicles for carrying a plot, not living beings.

In this respect, Rowling went back to the older tradition of long novels in which large passages were written just for the sake of character development. Modern novels tend to get away from that, as most readers tend to be more action oriented and expect many successions of quick scenes.

Course, I have odd tastes. Philip Dick is one of my favorite authors, and much of his writing came out of his paranoid schizophrenia.

57 posted on 04/21/2011 3:54:39 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (Proud member of the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge (KOOK))
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To: BenKenobi

thanks, will do. I am familiar with Tolkien, but not the others you mention.


58 posted on 04/21/2011 3:55:37 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Richard Kimball

If PKD was any sort of stylist he would be hugely regarded. He had all these great ideas but one of the crudest prose styles imaginable. And he was terrible at naming characters (Rick Deckard, Roy Batty)!


59 posted on 04/21/2011 3:56:15 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Just because you can find it in the bookstore doesn’t mean anybody’s actually buying it. Modern hipsters, much like their 40s counterparts, are dinks, if I’m going to pay attention to their taste at all it will be as negative examples; and suicides are morons. “The Dead” might be good I don’t remember anything about it, most of the rest of Dubliners is crap, and Ulyses has no point at all. I don’t care what Joyce was after, much like I don’t care what the guy slurring at the bar is after. I have a very simple rule when reading, if I think “what the $%^& is this idiot blathering on about” once a page it’s a bad book. When I was suffering through Joyce in school I would think that about once a paragraph, bad writer.


60 posted on 04/21/2011 3:58:19 PM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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