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Rep. Allen West Challenges Conservative Mothers: ‘Spartan Women…Raise Spartan Men’ (VIDEO)
The Blaze ^ | 4-24-2011 | Scott Baker

Posted on 04/24/2011 11:29:31 AM PDT by Falcon28

Transcript via The Right Scoop:

But when you understood what made the Spartan men strong, it was the Spartan women. Because the Spartan women at the age of nine gave up their male sons. And their male sons went into a training that was called the Agoge and they stayed in that training for the next eleven to twelve years. And when they were finally qualified, when they were finally ready to join the ranks for the Spartan army, it was not their father who gave them their cloak and shield. It was their mother who gave them their shield. And when the Spartan mother gave that young Spartan warrior his shield, she gave him this basic commandment: “Spartan, here is your shield. Come back bearing this shield or being borne upon it!”

When Queen Gorgo, wife of King Leonidas, was questioned by the Persian emissary and she somewhat spoke out of turn to this Persian emissary, he tried to rebuke her. And she looked at him and said “Persian, beware, for it is Spartan women who raise Spartan men.”

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1 posted on 04/24/2011 11:29:34 AM PDT by Falcon28
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To: Falcon28

“Because the Spartan women at the age of nine gave up their male sons.”

I kinda thought the mothers were older than nine. Did they get to keep their female sons?

(I couldn’t resist.)


2 posted on 04/24/2011 11:33:34 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Falcon28

He is a good Man and speaks the truth.


3 posted on 04/24/2011 11:37:40 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Falcon28

I already did, Colonel.


4 posted on 04/24/2011 11:40:50 AM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: Falcon28
I like Cong West a lot. But this is an absurd remark.

>>>>>..Spartan women at the age of nine gave up their male sons.

Children having children leads to perpetual abortion on demand and that is a one big reason why we have so many problems in our society today.

5 posted on 04/24/2011 11:51:51 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Well...bad sentence structure but I know what he means.

Spartan woman gave up their nine years old sons.


6 posted on 04/24/2011 11:56:26 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Reagan Man

I pray that you are being sarcastic. The boys were age nine not the mothers. Even though the sentence was structured wrong the intent is clear.

So, by definition, who is absurd?


7 posted on 04/24/2011 12:02:09 PM PDT by Illuminatas (Obama - Dumber Than Bush!)
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To: Aria

The MSM will not see it as “bad sentence structure”.


8 posted on 04/24/2011 12:03:42 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Aria

I’m not sure where he’s getting the age of nine; all the historical resources I have seen state the age of seven was the time when the boys were removed from their mothers’ care.

Moreover, has he considered Aristotle’s criticism?

“It is the standards of civilized men not of beasts that must be kept in mind, for it is good men not beasts who are capable of real courage. Those like the Spartans who concentrate on the one and ignore the other in their education turn men into machines and in devoting themselves to one single aspect of city’s life, end up making them inferior even in that.”

(As quoted in Forrest, W.G. (1968), A History of Sparta, 950–192 B.C., New York: W. W. Norton & Co. p.53 )


9 posted on 04/24/2011 12:06:24 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Illuminatas

Relax, pilgrim. I like West.

Just tell him to speak better and stay away from the Trumpster.


10 posted on 04/24/2011 12:08:56 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man; Aria
The MSM will not see it as “bad sentence structure”.

And what will the "MSM" say about it? Why should we care what they think or say? They didn't say flip when Obama spoke of 57 states or "corpse" men.

What matters is the essence of Col. West's statements. I applaud him.

11 posted on 04/24/2011 12:09:08 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Falcon28

what made the Spartan men strong?

Part of it was that if you were born runt, they threw you off a cliff.

Celebrate that.


12 posted on 04/24/2011 12:12:02 PM PDT by clbiel (Hey Islam! Satan's on the line- says he's not giving back your religion without a fight.)
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To: arasina
Spoken words when transcribed to written words do not benefit from vocal inflection and the meaning may not be as clear.

Allen West has a measured speaking voice - he is slow to emotion and makes good on his effort to appeal to the minds of the audience. But I am moved when he rises to make a point and impressed with his quiet strength.

13 posted on 04/24/2011 12:13:55 PM PDT by corkoman (Steadfast and Loyal)
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To: arasina
>>>>>>Why should we care what they think or say?

Do I really need to post this? Its not about us caring. Most folks on the right know all about the MSM and their proclivity to trash conservatives for minor infractions taken out of context.

OTOH. Lotsa folks take their rants at face value. Like Independent voters.

14 posted on 04/24/2011 12:16:11 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: clbiel

Yep, they were quick to engage in infanticide.


15 posted on 04/24/2011 12:16:36 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Falcon28

A visiting Athenian sampled a spoonful of Spartan standard mess black bean gruel and said, “I can see why you Spartans aren’t afraid to die.”


16 posted on 04/24/2011 12:22:48 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Falcon28

So turning your kids over to the government is a good idea?


17 posted on 04/24/2011 12:26:12 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: Falcon28

Sounds like a totalitarian, statist notion to me.


18 posted on 04/24/2011 12:32:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You say your'e conservative, but you support liberals. Should I believe your words or your actions?)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
So turning your kids over to the government is a good idea?

Most of the country is already doing that. At age five.

19 posted on 04/24/2011 12:33:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You say your'e conservative, but you support liberals. Should I believe your words or your actions?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, which is why a supposed conservative agreeing with that idea is disturbing.


20 posted on 04/24/2011 12:35:20 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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