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Irish Bombshell: Government Raids PRIVATE Pensions To Pay For Spending (Could it happen here?)
Business Insider ^ | 05/10/2011 | Joe Weisenthal and Gregory White

Posted on 05/10/2011 9:52:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ireland's minister of finance, Michael Noonan, has outlined plans for a new tax on private pensions in Ireland.

The new tax on private pensions will be 0.6%, and last for four years.

Earlier:

This was just tweeted by Ireland's RTE News:

BREAKING: The Government is to impose a 0.6% levy on private pension funds for the next four years to fund its #jobsinitiative #dail

Doubt this will go over well.

More details to come...

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: debt; ireland; pension; pensions; plunder; seized; spending; theft
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1 posted on 05/10/2011 9:52:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, someone has to go first ...


2 posted on 05/10/2011 9:55:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is not the I WON going to Ireland sometime soon? Who knows what ideas and concepts he plans to bring back.


3 posted on 05/10/2011 9:55:11 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Tax-chick

Will the last industrious, productive person in Ireland please turn off the lights upon leaving.


4 posted on 05/10/2011 9:55:46 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t Argentina seize all the money in private pension funds?


5 posted on 05/10/2011 9:58:23 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: SeekAndFind

Do Irish pensioners pay income tax on the pension?

I already pay on my private pension at regular US federal tax rates.

It’s a helluva lot more than 0.6 percent obviously.


6 posted on 05/10/2011 9:58:32 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: SeekAndFind

BOHICA!!!!


7 posted on 05/10/2011 9:59:22 AM PDT by GQuagmire ('Don't Piss The Lady Off')
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To: nascarnation

No - you pay income tax on withdrawels.

“0.6% to the capital value of assets under management in pension funds established in the State.”

This plan is to confiscate 0.6% of you fund balance, for each of the next four years.

Imagine if you have $100k in an IRA, and the government just confiscates $2,400 out of the fund balance.

Spreading the wealth, I think they call it.


8 posted on 05/10/2011 10:05:06 AM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like it’s already starting to happen here:

Illinois Senate president wants to look at taxing retirement income

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2011/03/illinois-senate-president-wants-to-look-at-taxing-retirement-income.html

And here’s what other European countries are doing:

European nations begin seizing private pensions

Hungary, Poland, and three other nations take over citizens’ pension money to make up government budget shortfalls

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Adam-Smith-Institute-Blog/2011/0102/European-nations-begin-seizing-private-pensions


9 posted on 05/10/2011 10:05:16 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Incorrigible; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; ...

Could it happen here? You betcha.

Ireland ping!


10 posted on 05/10/2011 10:07:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Obama's "Gutsy Decision": Who's gonna tell the fool that he ain't cool?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry I am not well versed in finance or for that matter, any money matter.

Is this saying they are proposing no difference between the Before Tax and the After Tax contributions for your pension?


11 posted on 05/10/2011 10:09:34 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: SeekAndFind

And it will only last 4 years,if you believe that i got a bridge for sale..


12 posted on 05/10/2011 10:09:36 AM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: SeekAndFind
My fear is waking up one morning and the deed is done. The cowards in D.C. will NOT project this scheme.

I wonder how quickly America will be locked down so the cowards in D.C. can move freely after their massive theft.

13 posted on 05/10/2011 10:17:07 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The problem with it happening here is that we will have some notice and a whole lot of money would leave the country in a very short period of time.


14 posted on 05/10/2011 10:20:35 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

Really? They try and pass un-popular legislation all the time in the middle of the night while America sleeps..


15 posted on 05/10/2011 10:23:09 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: SeekAndFind

The US Gov’t carries out its stealth taxes differently.

We have the FED buy Gov’t debt/print money. Money is printed, Gov’t spends it on “jobs programs” or whatever scheme they have in mind, the money stock is diluted, you pay more for food, fuel, etc... due to inflation, your savings are expropriated through negative real interest rates, and your real salary declines.

The end result is as the same as Irish though.


16 posted on 05/10/2011 10:27:54 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Michael Barnes

The GOP has control of Congress and there are enough T-Party people there that would not let this go through without a public vote.

No member of Congress who voted for it, would ever be re-elected.


17 posted on 05/10/2011 10:28:47 AM PDT by Eva
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To: SeekAndFind
I remember that Laura Tyson the Chair of President Clinton's Council of Economic Advisers joined Jessie Jackson's effort to take 15-percent of all private retirement funds.

The money was to be used to fund "inner city" projects.

Folks, that's how 1960s Marxist-Alinsky street/campus revolutionary rabble and their ideological issue feeeeeeeeel about these things. Arguably they are now "the Establishment." Certainly in the universities and the MSM they are. They are the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party).

18 posted on 05/10/2011 10:33:36 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Eva

Under ordinary circumstances, I would agree with you, hands down. What we have witnessed as of the last two years is a federal government that barely acts within the Constitution as it is.


19 posted on 05/10/2011 10:36:19 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: PGR88
The US Gov’t carries out its stealth taxes differently.

At some point people may wake up and realize that what the Fed is doing is nothing short of Taxation Without Representation.

20 posted on 05/10/2011 10:36:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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