Posted on 05/13/2011 6:35:22 AM PDT by jaydubya2
This needs to be repeated on every available online forum and in every newsrag’s letters column, because it will not be noted by the liberal media outside of the local market. Hannity, O’Reilly and all other talk hosts as well should be pressed to address the issue.
yeah tell that to the guy in Pima County, AZ
Certainly traditional "hot pursuit" doctrines would allow the cops to take in the miscreants ~ by retreating into their apartment they didn't really resolve their complaint WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS.
The geeks on the Indiana Supreme Court went too far in their ruling, but I bet the nonsense part showed up back in an appeal.
The couple are probably still a nuisance to their neighbors, but the Court has let everyone ~ the couple and the cops ~ off the hook and left unresolved the grievance of the neighbors.
Next time those people take off after each other outside somebody else's front door they might well get shot.
It is the ruling of Indiana the eventually will (hopefully) mean nothing. Until then the good people of Indiana have no right to bar entry or resist a LEO entering their home for any reason, or for no reason at all.
The Judicial system has the same illiteracy rate as Detroit’s school district.
And if he can't make bail? Can't afford a liar...I mean lawyer...
Pretty sure the line was deliverd TO ‘William Wallace’ by the ‘Irishman’:
“The Lord says He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re fooked.”
Indiana’s Supreme Court is usually far more level-headed. I am stunned by these decisions this week. There must be more to it than is being reported. I’ll have to find the decisions and read them for myself. I really do no believe that they would toss out the 4th Amendment.
Did you read my scenario (criminals can yell "police" just as easily as police can)? Did you know that this is actually happening already?
Ridiculous.
The anti-constitutional judges - acting outside of their responsibility and illegaly themselves - have just defined police as EXACTLY the same as criminals.
If a criminal breaks into your home - you are entitled to seek redress in court as well.
The judges basically have NO CONCEPT what the Constitution is about - LIMITING the powers of the government. The judges see no limit - therefore - what is the point?
sfl
I did not owe it but it cost me $100.00 in bail and the neighborhood could not stop talking about my "arrest".
I, after 30 minutes of discussion, left with the sherriff but I never allowed them in or stepped over the door stoop before conceding.
I have since moved to New mexico and I can tell you, I'l make a last stand before I go through that crap again.
Constables make about 250 dollars per warrant served, it is not police work, it is a cash cow and the state of indiana, is horrible about it.
My bill ( which I did not owe) was $112.00 my bail was $100.00 and i never got that back so the state won.
Thus the judge says that "modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence" is at complete odds to the original wording and meaning. He ruled on the side of modern perversion of process and law that has be built using feckless chains of stare decisis.
The kind of law modern lawyers take as absolute gospel. Which is strange, since it is absent of gospel, absoluteness, or even logic beyond the logic of fearful power.
BTW, missed something on first read ~ the guy's wife was KICKING HIM OUT. She placed a 9/11 call on him. He told the cop there was no further problem because, as he picked up the bag of stuff his wife had just tossed at him out in the parking area, he had his stuff and was leaving.
That's the point when the guy went back into the apartment. His wife (they were breaking up so she's still his wife) told him to give it up ~ don't try to stop the officer(s).
She let them in.
This is one of those multi-party tenancy things where everybody walking around has a right to enter or authorize entry.
The Court didn't say, but most likely they were focused on the "reasonableness" of an officer entering a dwelling when, in fact, he'd been invited in by one of the residents.
That would be the only factor involving the question of "reasonableness". Future decisions will focus on that point even though the court didn't dwell on the matter ~ they will undoubtedly IGNORE THE REST.
Not likely Indiana cops are going to just bust in your house without a warrant, but Fur Shur if somebody let's one of them in, don't touch.
Now, another point, DON'T LET A COP IN until he shows his warrant.
Finally! A gaggle of judges that makes the 9th Circuit look good.
so, the cop could want to rape your wife and daughters... rob your safe... kick your dog... and there is nothing you can do about it.
seriously... wtf is wrong with these people?!
Does Indiana has a Castle Doctrine Law?
He was there "reasonably"~ so he didn't need a warrant. The focus of the court was primarily on whether or not the perp could be charged with an assault on the officer.
My conclusion is that the justices didn't read the final write up at all ~ this is a concoction by a power mad law clerk who's trying to show off to his buddies at the Turkish baths or something.
It's like the conclusions fit some other case ~ maybe ~ but certainly not this one.
So where are the real liberals now. They should be screaming bloody murder over this ruling.
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