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Is Skim Milk Making You Fat?
Details Magazine via Yahoo! Shine ^ | Fri Apr 29, 2011 | Paul John Scott

Posted on 05/18/2011 8:39:01 AM PDT by goodwithagun

You probably spend all of one second deciding what kind of milk to put in your coffee. What's to debate? If you want to keep the pounds off and avoid heart disease, choose skim. This is gospel, after all: It's recommended by the USDA and has so permeated our thinking that you can't even find reduced-fat (2%) milk at places like Subway—and forget about whole.

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TOPICS: Food
KEYWORDS: 2milk; 2percentmilk; milk; skimmilk; wholemilk
We switched to organic whole milk when my son turned one and I weened him. We are so glad we did! My husband doesn't like it so he just drinks almond milk. I would love to find a raw milk source neer me. Don't tell Big Sis please!
1 posted on 05/18/2011 8:39:04 AM PDT by goodwithagun
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To: goodwithagun

How much does a gallon of organic milk cost?


2 posted on 05/18/2011 8:41:57 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: goodwithagun

I buy the fat free milk to drink..but always get a container of half and half for my coffee..


3 posted on 05/18/2011 8:42:32 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: goodwithagun

Fedzilla is more concerned about Amish farmers selling raw milk than they are securing the border.


4 posted on 05/18/2011 8:43:08 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: frogjerk

$6/gallon, we go through two gallons/week. I’ve heard that raw usually goes for around $5/gal.


5 posted on 05/18/2011 8:43:51 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: frogjerk
How much does a gallon of organic milk cost?

As opposed to inorganic milk?

6 posted on 05/18/2011 8:44:25 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: goodwithagun

Why does it cost so much money if it is organic?


7 posted on 05/18/2011 8:44:42 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: Ditto
As opposed to inorganic milk?

Thats their term, not mine.

8 posted on 05/18/2011 8:45:25 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: frogjerk

You need to research that for yourself. Too much to get into in one post.


9 posted on 05/18/2011 8:46:41 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Organic runs here at Walmart between $5 and 6 a gallon.

I don’t drink organic much, but I do drink whole milk. Screw skim, or chalk water as I call it.


10 posted on 05/18/2011 8:49:50 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: frogjerk

Because they charge you for the word “Organic”. Extra printing cost, otherwise they could just print Milk.


11 posted on 05/18/2011 8:50:11 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: goodwithagun

I think it’s the over processing of food and the amount we eat that’s making us fat and sickly. Also the way our food is grown now. Over planting, throwing just the bare minimum of minerals back into the soil ect. doesn’t help either. We must eat more of the good foods that are grown like that, in order to get the same amount of vitamins and minerals that you would have gotten from food years ago when they rotated crops more. The bible says, let the land rest ever 7th year. Me thinks, God knew what He was talking about.


12 posted on 05/18/2011 8:50:45 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: goodwithagun

The less processed a food/beverage is the better.. As always.. Moderation is Key!


13 posted on 05/18/2011 8:51:05 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: goodwithagun

My doctor told us to stay away from everything except whole milk. It seems that when they remove the fat, they also remove other things the body needs to have to digest the milk and process it in our bodies properly. Raw milk would be even better, but in my state, you can only get raw milk for your animals. They won’t sell raw milk for human consumption.


14 posted on 05/18/2011 8:51:20 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Because they charge you for the word “Organic”. Extra printing cost, otherwise they could just print Milk.

I'm thinking it is a scam as well. I just wont buy it because I can't afford to start doubling and tripling my food bill. Inflation right now is enough.

15 posted on 05/18/2011 8:53:38 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: MsLady

I’m with you there. I can justify the costs of the organic things I buy because I have a huge garden every year and process and preserve what I grow, plus I cook so I buy unprocessed products and make my own. My food bill is increasing, thanks to obama, but I can still afford to purchase organic. I can offset the costs by not buying chips, soda, sugary cereal, etc.


16 posted on 05/18/2011 8:53:45 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

It ain’t making me fat, skim milk is gross, it’s like water with a calcium pill dissolved in it. Whole milk only for me.


17 posted on 05/18/2011 8:54:10 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: discostu
Me too. Both my kids and I. The wife isn't a milk fan. And the best part is it POs the MIL to see us all drink whole milk.

From the article.."To turn skim milk white, "some companies fortify their product with powdered skim," says Bob Roberts, a dairy scientist at Penn State. Powdered skim (which is also added to organic low-fat milks). In animal studies, oxidized cholesterol triggers a host of biological changes, leading to plaque formation in the arteries and heart disease,.."

18 posted on 05/18/2011 9:02:42 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Waryone

Years ago I worked for doctors doing research into lipoprotein metabolism. One of the Ph.D.’s told me that homogenizing the milk is the danger to the circulatory system. There is no need for homogenization. Pasteurizing, yes, homogenizing, no. You have to be very careful where you get raw milk. Poor sanitary conditions can taint the milk with bacteria that can kill humans. I drank it on my grandparent’s farm, but we knew how clean they were when milking the cows.


19 posted on 05/18/2011 9:03:08 AM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: frogjerk
It's not about health. It's about the dollars organic food marketers can wrest from consumers who are led to believe that it is healthier in some respect.

For my part, whenever I see the word "organic", I check to see if my wallet is safely in my back pocket.

20 posted on 05/18/2011 9:05:28 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Free Vulcan

If you drank skim milk every day for a month or two and went back to whole — you’d hurl from the all the disgusting fat in your mouth. Like drinking liquified marbling from a steak.


21 posted on 05/18/2011 9:06:11 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Waryone

I wonder if that could be the cause of lactose intolerance.


22 posted on 05/18/2011 9:06:25 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (You will try to nudge commies toward the truth, while they try to nudge you toward the cattle cars.)
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To: frogjerk

No, it’s because it’s not processed in high volume factory conditions. Therefore costs more for the farmer.


23 posted on 05/18/2011 9:07:20 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: goodwithagun

Pasteurized skim please.


24 posted on 05/18/2011 9:11:09 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: goodwithagun

I don’t buy to much organic, a little to pricey. Would love to find someone I could buy raw milk from too but, it’s more illegal than pot. We have a garden ever year and have slowly been expanding the amount we grow. We go wild berry picking mid-late summer and put up a lot of jams and preserves. We have one big old cherry tree and large old apple orchard. The apple trees are probably 50-60 maybe older but still we get a lot of good apples from them.


25 posted on 05/18/2011 9:11:40 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: discostu

It reminds me of drinking water from a glass that someone forgot to rinse the milk out of. Yuck. Not to my taste, but to those who like it, enjoy.


26 posted on 05/18/2011 9:12:38 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: Lee'sGhost

‘If you drank skim milk every day for a month or two and went back to whole — you’d hurl from the all the disgusting fat in your mouth. ‘

You couldn’t be more wrong. People who are protein types love the richness of whole milk. Skim milk is disgusting to them.

BTW, you might want to go back and read the article to see all the extra unhealthy junk added to skim milk.

Also, studies show that skim milk promotes obesity in kids, whole milk does not.


27 posted on 05/18/2011 9:18:15 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: frogjerk

My grandfather (doctor) always told us, only babies need milk, and what they need is human mothers milk. Other than ice cream, I don’t drink the stuff, yuk.


28 posted on 05/18/2011 9:18:49 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: MsLady
I think it’s the over processing of food and the amount we eat that’s making us fat and sickly.

That and the lack of movement and most physical work that we used to do in our daily lives. Heck until the 1980's, most yards were mowed with PUSH mowers!

But it is even more biological than that! Think about this, when we primarily ate fresh foods, those foods were LOCAL to your area. That means you get the nutrients which are needed to thrive in the LOCAL area! Also, just like honey, the more LOCAL to you, the better FOR you! These are basic, common sense problems which can be fixed with basic, common sense solutions!

It does not have to be labeled "organic" to make it better - heck make sure it was grown within 50-75 miles of you and I BET it would be better for you than ANYTHING else! That and GET OFF YOUR BUTT and do something PHYSICAL!!!
29 posted on 05/18/2011 9:25:48 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: goodwithagun

$5 would be great...

We pay $4.25 for a half gallon of raw milk.

It’s worth every penny!


30 posted on 05/18/2011 9:31:19 AM PDT by proudpapa
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To: goodwithagun

This article is so incredibly flawed and attempts to make connections where they simply don’t exist.

It’s about calories. You can eat Twinkies all day as long as you expend more calories than the Twinkies you eat.


31 posted on 05/18/2011 9:38:26 AM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Sling Blade (2006))
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To: goodwithagun

Dr. Atkins pointed out long ago that skim milk has far too many carbs and people tend to drink glasses of it at a time because it feels so unsatisfying. One was better off in his opinion using a small amount of heavy whipping cream for coffee and never drinking milk at all.


32 posted on 05/18/2011 9:42:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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If the milk jug doesn’t have a red cap, I don’t buy it.


33 posted on 05/18/2011 10:01:31 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Chuzzlewit

I’ve always subscribed to your grandfather’s point of view. I stopped drinking milk when I was 5 (I’m now 60) but still eat other dairy products. Milk is for baby cows who need to build the fat. To me it has always tasted like crap.


34 posted on 05/18/2011 10:04:25 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Lee'sGhost

When I switched back to whole milk, I started by pouring it over strawberries, with just a sprinkling of sugar. It’s as good as strawberries with cream, but less expensive than pure cream.


35 posted on 05/18/2011 10:10:08 AM PDT by Ellendra (Remember the Battle of Athens, Tennessee: Aug. 2, 1946)
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To: goodwithagun

Skim milk is seen by the body as mostly Sugar. Fat doesn’t make you fat, if it’s good, healthy saturated fat. Sugar and grains make you fat.

When you choose between (USA) organic and non-organic, you are choosing between a food that avoided using hormones, pesticides, herbicides, and one that did not.

If I held up two apples for you to choose from, and told you that one contained neurotoxic pesticides that cumulatively lead to cancer and Parkinson’s later in life, and the other one did not, which do you want?


36 posted on 05/18/2011 10:12:11 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Red_Devil 232
Because there are no hormones or antibiotics in the milk. I'm not feeding my child garbage.

If you want garbage in your food you can have it. I know a place where they sell sugar coated plastic you can chew on they call fruit roll-ups. Sugar flavored drinks they call apple juice... all nasty for your health.

But if you wish to be a creature of Walmart, I advise you eat as much as you can of processed food.

37 posted on 05/18/2011 10:21:33 AM PDT by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
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To: Porterville

It is obvious from your rant that you have ingested to much of what you have accused me of doing or want me to do! Cut down on your sugar!


38 posted on 05/18/2011 10:27:48 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Rant... just can't stand the obese or the slovenly giving dietary advice.
39 posted on 05/18/2011 10:33:12 AM PDT by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
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To: goodwithagun
In 1912, the book Farmer's Cyclopedia of Live Stock, described how a feed mixture of skim milk and corn, as a most successful way for FATTENING swine (direct link). It's the government's inverted food pyramid, with its reliance on carb dense grains that contributes to the expanding American.
40 posted on 05/18/2011 10:38:51 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Porterville

I did not give you any dietary advice. If you have to eat like you are obese or slovenly that is ok with me. But I don’t need to.


41 posted on 05/18/2011 10:41:16 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ExTxMarine

I do get off my butt and do something physical. It’s called bodybuilding ;) At least I did this for about 17 years, 1-3 hours a day 4-6 days a week. Had chemo 9 years ago, which wrecked my adrenals and I’ve been struggling ever since. In the past few months I started up bodybuilding again. I just have to take it easy, not lift heavy and not push it. Adrenals once wrecked take years if ever to get back to functioning normally again. Until then, if I’m not careful with my energy expenditure, I pay and pay dearly. Makes life most frustrating, I can tell you that.


42 posted on 05/18/2011 10:46:25 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: TSgt

Oh yes, CI-CO. Then my body must be scientifically flawed. Oh wait, it is! I have PCOS, so if I follow your guidlines I will get fat and stop ovulating again. I will also grow back all those nasty chin hairs. CI-CO, that’s why Atkins, South Beach, low-GI, and paleo diets are so unsuccessful. Oh wait, they aren’t! If it were that easy, everyone with low-fat, no-fat, low-cal items in their pantries would be thin, but that just isn’t so. I see so many young girls who are thin but have guts. This is a result of CI-CO. They are heading toward reproductive problems and sugar issues just like I was. No more sugar, real or fake, and a low-GI diet where I eat all the fat I want. Avacados are my fave!

Also, cancer cells eat sugar and partially hydrogenated and hydrogenated oils. How many of those ingredients are in Twinkies?


43 posted on 05/18/2011 11:01:04 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

My husband, an “inorganic” farmer, says organic just means they spray at night.


44 posted on 05/18/2011 11:12:01 AM PDT by Virginia8384
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To: MsLady

I was not telling “YOU” to get off your butt - I was talking in general to EVERYONE! Sorry for the confusion!


45 posted on 05/18/2011 11:14:37 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Virginia8384

Thanks for reminding me to increase my own organic gardening this year.


46 posted on 05/18/2011 11:16:38 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: TSgt
It’s about calories. You can eat Twinkies all day as long as you expend more calories than the Twinkies you eat.

Rush Limbaugh has talked about a guy who did just that and lost weight and his cholesterol, sugars and other blood work were fine.

47 posted on 05/18/2011 11:19:49 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: Waryone

I have heard that the absence of fat messes with the calcium absorbtion.


48 posted on 05/18/2011 12:38:56 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (All Hail the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

It’s true...I’ve drank skim for yaars and even find 1% revolting...whole would gag me.


49 posted on 05/18/2011 2:08:25 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
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