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Mac malware authors release a new, more dangerous version
ZDNet ^ | May 25, 2011, 12:05pm PDT | By Ed Bott

Posted on 05/26/2011 2:21:53 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: palmer

Hmm, I was wrong. I am admin and my accounts pane is locked.


21 posted on 05/26/2011 6:26:13 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Swordmaker
We had some good news to temper the passing of my mother: my older daughter gave us the news on mother's day that she is making us Grandparents! She knew before the passing of my mother and whispered it to her on her deathbed... and my Mom nodded and smiled, showing she understood... so she knew she was going to be a greatgrandmother before she died. That makes me happy.

We promised my daughter not to tell anyone until she passed her third trimester and that OK came down after the ceremony on Monday! The genetic counselors say everything is A-OK, too! YAY! She is due to deliver on December 7th.

Evidently you meant first, not third, trimester. We will be looking forward to the big day with you.
Regarding your valuable recommendations to your fellow Mac users in #7 (and #11), I take it that anyone with physical access to my Mac has the ability to make himself an Admin, or even a Root, user by the simple expedient of inserting my OS X disk into my machine and launching from that disk (control C during powerup? Whatever). So since I am going to keep my Snow Leopard disk anyway, isn't it correct to say that I might just as well keep my account names/passwords right in the box with that disk? Only thing I would lose is that if someone found my password and used it, I wouldn't necessarily know it - whereas I would find it out if someone with the disk but not knowing the password came along and changed my password from what it had been, as soon as I tried to use my password?

Then the only disadvantage to putting the password with the disk is that the disk helps the intruder to identify the password - and thus to gain the ability to access Admin privileges without tipping me off?


22 posted on 05/26/2011 6:26:19 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: palmer
It seems to me that if the Accounts Pane is locked, then you are done (not running as Admin), so skip all the rest of those steps.

No, that's not correct. Even as an admin, the pane is normally locked to prevent accidental changes -- you need to provide your password to unlock the pane.

23 posted on 05/26/2011 6:28:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (Palin's detractors now resort to "nobody believes she can win because nobody believes she can win")
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To: Swordmaker

Windows will always be more vulnerable to viruses, due to being a more open program than Apple. I can’t just go pull a program off the shelf and load it onto Apple, as I can with Windows.

However, as one computer teacher told me, that is the tradeoff with using a more open system, like Windows. On the plus side, it’s been years since I caught a virus, so it would appear that Microsoft has learned a lot.


24 posted on 05/26/2011 6:55:56 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: sayuncledave

I’ve been aware of the fact that Apple reputation has been more due to it’s small market share, more than the fact that it is more secure.

And, accordingly to a story that a story that was released here not that long ago, Apple Techs have been instructed to always deny the possibility of malware and viruses, no matter the facts of the situation.


25 posted on 05/26/2011 7:01:08 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Swordmaker
Thank you for the update!

May YHvH give you comfort
on the passing of your loved ones.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

26 posted on 05/26/2011 7:17:40 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Jonty30; Swordmaker
Hi Jonty. Welcome to FreeRepublic.

> I can’t just go pull a program off the shelf and load it onto Apple, as I can with Windows.

Your comments indicate you're not familiar with Apple's Mac computers. Please read up a bit before making more such (uninformed) comments, since they undercut your believability. No offense intended, just sayin', the folks around here know better, and will take you to task for that sort of mistake.

> On the plus side, it’s been years since I caught a virus, so it would appear that Microsoft has learned a lot.

Agreed - Win7 is a very good OS. I use it all day, every day, in addition to my NetBSD UNIX, Linux, and Mac machines (I'm a System Administrator, and have been dealing with this stuff for over 35 years). I don't have time to chat just now, but I'll catch up later tonight.

BTW, if you wish, I suggest you read up on the difference between a Trojan and a virus, and the difference between an autonomous attack and a social engineering attack. It will come in handy in later discussions.

27 posted on 05/26/2011 7:30:32 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

No, I think my point is still valid. Every computer store I’ve been to has a much smaller Mac software section than a Windows section.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t some programs compatible or programs that aren’t good Apple substitutes of Window mainstays, but I think it’s still true, even if it has improved as of late.

I’m not meaning to slam Apple or anything, I’m just speaking from the heart.


28 posted on 05/26/2011 7:45:56 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Swordmaker

I have a probably dumb question. My husband just got his Ipad. Does all of this go for that too?


29 posted on 05/26/2011 8:21:18 AM PDT by brytlea (If you don't know what APOD is you'd better find out!)
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To: Swordmaker

I see your wonderful news! Congratulations, new life is always a welcome thing. May God blessings smile on you all, it’s your turn! :) So glad your Mom got to hear about it, and now she can watch from a great vantage point.


30 posted on 05/26/2011 8:27:01 AM PDT by brytlea (If you don't know what APOD is you'd better find out!)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Evidently you meant first, not third, trimester. We will be looking forward to the big day with you.

What can I say... It was 4 AM... ;^)>

There IS a way to lock even the DVD method of changing the administrator name and password... so you can really lock down a Mac... but off the top of my head I don't recall how to do it. But why make it easy?

31 posted on 05/26/2011 10:55:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Jonty30
Windows will always be more vulnerable to viruses, due to being a more open program than Apple. I can’t just go pull a program off the shelf and load it onto Apple, as I can with Windows.

Jonty, you REALLY can't be that ignorant. It is FAR easier to install a program on a Mac than it is to install one on a PC,.. off the shelf... and you can install MORE applications on a Mac than you can on a PC, as you can install ALL Windows, UNIX, Linux, OSX, iOS, DOS, and a host of other OS's applications, simultaneously... And run them natively. Your assumption that the Mac is a "closed system" is myth. Your computer teacher was incompetent.

32 posted on 05/26/2011 11:14:24 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

Anyone that accesses the Internet as administrator instead of regular user is asking to be hosed, regardless of the type of operating system.


33 posted on 05/26/2011 11:21:55 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Jonty30
I’ve been aware of the fact that Apple reputation has been more due to it’s small market share, more than the fact that it is more secure.

And you are AGAIN completely wrong.

And, accordingly to a story that a story that was released here not that long ago, Apple Techs have been instructed to always deny the possibility of malware and viruses, no matter the facts of the situation.

And I have talked to Apple Techs I know who work at the Apple stores who say they never saw that typo inclusive memo that came from an anonymous source to a blogger known for only reporting negative things about Apple. Apple has typically said nothing yea or nay about it.

34 posted on 05/26/2011 11:31:30 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: brytlea
I have a probably dumb question. My husband just got his Ipad. Does all of this go for that too?

In a word, no.

35 posted on 05/26/2011 11:34:05 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

If Apple is the more open system, as you claim, as opposed to proprietary, than why in most stores, the software sections for Mac is always considerably smaller.

You would think, that if Mac allows more off-the-shelf software, they’d be the more widespread operating system.


36 posted on 05/26/2011 11:37:28 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Swordmaker

For those Greybeards that use “Speed Download” in place of Safari’s downloader, you should make sure that “Auto Open” is disabled in Speed Download’s preference pane.


37 posted on 05/26/2011 11:44:02 AM PDT by bobcat62
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To: Jonty30
If Apple is the more open system, as you claim, as opposed to proprietary, than why in most stores, the software sections for Mac is always considerably smaller.

You would think, that if Mac allows more off-the-shelf software, they’d be the more widespread operating system.

By your logic, the best restaurants must therefore be Macdonalds. . . and the best coffee must be Starbucks. Your logic that popularity defines quality fails.

38 posted on 05/26/2011 11:51:10 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

Not necessarily.

It depends on your personal priorities.
If you want a computer that works without a hitch, Mac is probably a better computer. However, if you’re looking for the most varied amount of software, it’s not necessarily the best choice.

I’d always rather have choice, as opposed to other possible priorities.


39 posted on 05/26/2011 11:59:15 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
No, I think my point is still valid. Every computer store I’ve been to has a much smaller Mac software section than a Windows section.

That's a logical fallacy called "begging the question," Jonty. You use the fact there are fewer Mac users to argue there are fewer Mac users.

40 posted on 05/26/2011 1:46:59 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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