Posted on 06/01/2011 12:00:06 PM PDT by Liberty1970
*snip* Then, as you mentioned, in January of this year [Andrea] Rossi, backed by [Sergio] Focardi, who had been working on this for many years, and in fact doing some of the best work worldwide, came out and did a demonstration first in January, they re-did it in February, re-did it in March, where for days they had one of these cells, a small cell, producing in the 10 to 15 kW range which is far more than enough to boil water for tea. And they say this is weak interaction, it’s not fusion.
So I think were almost over the “We don’t understanding it” problem. I think we’re almost over the “This doesn’t produce anything useful” problem. And so I think this will go forward fairly rapidly now. And if it does, this is capable of, by itself, completely changing geo-economics, geopolitics of solving quite a bit of [the] energy [problem.]
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I noted this interview mentions beta decay but not gamma radiation. Beta decay is a lot more manageable from a personal-use standpoint, since a thin shield of lead or other dense material would be more than enough to keep any radiation escape to virtually nil. And that's consistent with what we've seen from the demonstration units.
So now I just want a safe, reliable way to transform heat into electricity (compared, say, to a steam turbine in everyone's basement) and I'm a happy camper.
(I sold a third of my utility stock holding over the weekend. Maybe this will end up being a boon to utilities in the short to mid-term, but my gut feeling is that ultimately, this will put power production into individual homes and businesses, rendering power utilities extinct.)
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LENR means Low Energy Nuclear Reaction which is also known as ‘Cold Fusion’ even though the title says it isn’t.
From all that I’ve read it is pretty clear the folks working on LENR are agreed that cold fusion is something distinct. I’ll see if I can dig up a link. But the article in this link also touches on the distinction between the two.
And the other thing ~ Northern Canada (which almost all there is of Canada anyway) can now be subdivided, sold off, and developed.
OK, if you look at the bottom of the article this thread links to, Krivit has a series of links on:
Recommended Reading: Distinction Between LENR and “Cold Fusion”
(Note that this distinction was being made PRIOR to the Rossi E-cat unveiling, based on the dates of most of the links.)
But yes, heating/cooling costs would make deserts and tundra more cost-effective to settle. The 9 months of snow on the ground would still get to most people, however.
I’d certainly like to see that! All of the articles I have ever read make cold fusion and LENR interchangeable.
Well Cool. Or should I say hot...
Tech-List Pingee reporting with an interesting NASA tie-in to Rossi’s e-cat research. Gives a summary explanation: it’s not cold fusion but low energy nuclear interactions (beta decay) producing heat. Yeah, I know, too good to be true, but gosh it is providing non-bunk reviews. Submitted for Ping List consideration. No offense taken if it misses the bar.
I did the math at one point, and assuming that the entire world's electrical production shift to e-cat, the nickel consumed would be about 1% of current nickel production.
Plus there are several large asteroids with estimates of cubic miles of nickel in them.
It's a matter of opinion. To "fusion" scientists, "fusion" involves isotopes of hydrogen making helium. For me, if the reaction product is of a higher atomic number than the input, then it's fusion.
The e-cat reaction appears to be a catalyzed reaction, where instead of a hydrogen proton directly fusing with the nickel nucleus, it gets converted into an Ultra Low Momentum neutron by absorbing an electron, which gets readily absorbed by the nickel nucleus, creating an unstable isotope which emits an electron via beta decay and turns into copper.
I sold a third of my utility stock holding over the weekend.
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If this is totally on the money,and the roll out comes in an orderly fashion—ie without hold ups from various interest groups— none of this is going to significant significantly affect on utilities for at least 5 years.
Nickel to copper???? That almost sounds like...transmutation!
I thought that didn’t exist. LOL!
You could make a mint turning nickel into copper.
Nickel costs more than copper. Look up commodity prices.
Now if we could turn the transmutation from copper to nickel!
Most of the older stuff focuses on possible ways to accomplish "fusion". The theory here doesn't involve "fusion" ~ so, if I understand what NASA, et al, are doing, is focusing on the Weak Force theory to the exclusion of the nonproductive "fusion" theory.
That means it's worthwhile catching up on reading the older stuff that conforms to the new dichotomy.
Why do you say it does not produce copper?
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