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Herman Cain: Obama 'Was Raised In Kenya'

Posted on 06/13/2011 10:11:42 AM PDT by OUTKAST

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To: TheBigJ

You had three years to show his short form was fake, yet nobody important seems convinced.

Do you plan on doing anything different to “prove” that the long form is also fake?

After not actually doing anything different, do you expect different results this time?

What results do you expect?


61 posted on 06/15/2011 4:10:19 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Oh at this stage no skin off my back. I don’t have access to millions of dollars to get legal muscle up against an opposing force. If Congress, courts, law enforcement, media prefer to ignore the RULE OF LAW in favor of corruption, convenience, and status quo over basic checks and balances, it’s their down fall — welcome to the law of the jungle baby! Same as with McCain born abroad, same as with Roger Calero from Nicaragua who get’s on ballot in 5 states. How can this happen? Nobody cares. Power and ruling class elite write the story at their own peril. The illusion will only last so long....


62 posted on 06/15/2011 4:21:41 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: TheBigJ
By what criteria would McCain be ineligible?

According to Vattel #1-217 he is perfectly eligible.

According to US law he is perfectly eligible.

What criteria are you using?

63 posted on 06/15/2011 4:25:09 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

This:

McCain’s C.O.B. with affidavit
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/documents/McCain-SurreplyEx-7-21-08.pdf

Colon, Panama isn’t U.S. soil. Have to be born on U.S. sovereign soil to be Natural Born Citizen requirement of President as most learn in grade school here in U.S.


64 posted on 06/15/2011 4:40:53 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: OUTKAST

Actually he is correct...

he is an American. Period.

Just like all of us who were born here are American. We’re not Irish-American, German-American, etc. We were born in a country called the United States of America. Any hyphenation indicates dual loyalties.

Those taking the oath of citizenship become Americans...not hyphenated Americans.

Time we start driving that idea into the mainstream ...


65 posted on 06/15/2011 4:47:38 PM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: TheBigJ
A lot of people learned in grade school that Columbus discovered the world was round.

That doesn't make it true.

What criteria are you going to use?

American law - he was born a citizen.

English law - he would be a “natural born subject”.

Vattel - he would be “natural born” as being deemed born in country for such purposes.

Your criteria is “the one I was taught in grade school” is interesting seeings as how so few were advancing that argument during the election - but only after the election.

Were you here? When was the first time you advanced this argument that you say you learned in grade school?

66 posted on 06/15/2011 6:06:43 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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