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Casey Anthony Live Trial Thread, Day 45: CLOSIING ARGUMENTS (7/03/11)
July 3, 2011 | truthkeeper

Posted on 07/03/2011 6:05:20 AM PDT by truthkeeper

Good Morning to all. Closing Arguments are today.

I apologize in advance if you were either left off today's ping list or included in error. I am not at home and forgot to forward my pinglist to my friend's house, so I've had to check some older threads and reconstruct as many names as possible. If I missed you I'm sorry.

I probably won't be able to post much on this thread, but after I am home I will keep my ear to the television/radio for the jury decision, and will ping again when I hear so we can have a discussion thread.

Let me know if you want on or off the ping list.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: anthony; baez; casey; caseyanthony; caylee; crime; murder; orlandoflorida; roykronk; trial
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To: kcvl

have to go to another tv bbl


361 posted on 07/03/2011 10:29:19 AM PDT by paul revere is riding (I'm really a Paula.....Go Cain)
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To: rep-always

That stealth juror is always a concern. I heard that this is a ‘death penalty certified’ jury, so assume that means all of them in qualifying said they would or could go for the death penalty if that was deemed the appropriate sentence. Is there anything done beyond questioning the potential jurors about their willingness to impose the death penalty, and then taking their word as truthful?

Upthread someone posted that the judge decides the penalty but if that’s the case, why would jurors have to be death penalty certified?


362 posted on 07/03/2011 10:30:23 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: kcvl

AlL George had to do was look at the charges.
Remember CINDY was back in the office Bitching about how hight the charges were. $500 or so. I don’t know about FL but I doubt there are too many tow places that charge $500 for one day storage. Well maybe NYC.


363 posted on 07/03/2011 10:34:49 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: tioga; patton

Obv he stayed in a holiday inn express last night....


364 posted on 07/03/2011 10:36:47 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: MizSterious

The larger part of Baez’s summation is for the jury, obviously, but he also has to preserve every possible reason to file an appeal, so that’s a secondary reason to throw in everything he can. Or, if he’s reading that the jury is already lost, that appeal would become primary.


365 posted on 07/03/2011 10:38:24 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: patton
Actually, I am convinced that she was in the habit of chloroforming her daughter of an evening, in order to go out and party.

Hi Everybody. I just got back and am trying to catch up on the thread. Regarding the above earlier post, try this addy (I can't link) to read more on this angle. (An inmate claims Casey told her she would chloroform the child to get her to sleep.)

http://www.wftv.com/news/23067010/detail.html

366 posted on 07/03/2011 10:38:57 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: paul revere is riding

No I do not want her set free. I want to find out the truth and can not from the State case. I agree with the defense about emotion. They say the murder weapon is the tape but have no proof.


367 posted on 07/03/2011 10:39:16 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: EDINVA

Had to leave for a bit....have any of the commentators remarked how inapprpriate it was of Baez making a “cut the cheese” joke in the middle of his summation?


368 posted on 07/03/2011 10:40:14 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I STAND WITH SARAH...)
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To: xsmommy; patton

he IS a holiday inn kinda guy


369 posted on 07/03/2011 10:40:28 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Marty62

Notice of car sent to home around the fourth of july. Anthonys did not go to get car till the 15th.


370 posted on 07/03/2011 10:42:01 AM PDT by Rapunzel (Allen West...please if u luv america run for POTUS 2012...Palin or Walker for VP)
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To: miss marmelstein

Ashton used the “CAYLEE beging to verbalize” We all know THAT had to hit home with Jurors. CAsey’s lies werejust a matter of time becoming known. What was she going to say CAYLEE is a LIAR, CAYLEE was DOOMED.


371 posted on 07/03/2011 10:42:01 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: EDINVA

Well, we know not everyone tells the truth. Not saying these jurors didn’t. Just that it is a very compelling situation to be part of this jury.

Next, they will first have to find her guilty in a trial that has the defendant facing death by lethal injection. So that means that the jurors have to be able to come to a guilty verdict, with the defendant facing death.

Second, the jury recommends and votes for the sentence then the judge decides the sentence but in my past experience the judge usually follows the jury’s recommendation.


372 posted on 07/03/2011 10:42:08 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: patton
If (forgive me) the child had not decomposed before the duct tape was applied, how is it possible that there is no DNA on the sticky side of the tape?

That's easy, because the DNA degraded from being out in the elements and humid Florida air. This was discussed very thoroughly at trial.

373 posted on 07/03/2011 10:42:37 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: CAluvdubya

They’ve avoided it like the plague.


374 posted on 07/03/2011 10:42:40 AM PDT by Chandalier (Obama is a Chicken Hawk!)
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To: screaminsunshine

You keep forgetting that both the car and baby were in Casey’s custody not George’s. George only met up with the car when he went to the tow truck place. And, of course, he never met up with Caylee again.


375 posted on 07/03/2011 10:43:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (FR haters of Sarah Palin are wearing me out)
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To: EDINVA

Because a juror might hold out if he/she thought the judge would impose the death penalty, making them complicit in something they really oppose.


376 posted on 07/03/2011 10:43:38 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: dfc1
I didn’t hear Ashton mention the computer searches that were done three months before Caylee died, that had to be done by Casey. Did I miss it? Can Drane-Burdick bring it up when it’s her turn? Ashton was outstanding, btw.

Stay tuned, it will come up in rebuttal. Bet on it.

377 posted on 07/03/2011 10:46:11 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: Marty62
The fact Caylee was beginning to verbalize may have been the reason the family fought the day before. Caylee wouldnot yet know to lie.
Casey in her mind HAD to stop the truth. No one can defy her.
378 posted on 07/03/2011 10:49:11 AM PDT by Rapunzel (Allen West...please if u luv america run for POTUS 2012...Palin or Walker for VP)
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To: tioga

Bob Massey and this judge on fox think prosecutions case was sufficient. Baez put burden on himself by over promising in his opening.


379 posted on 07/03/2011 10:49:11 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: WHBates

George either lied to Cindy when he said he had gambling debts or to the FBI when he said it wasn’t gambling, but:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/FBI_interviews_with_Anthonys_released

“...It seems the financial problems for the Anthony family started long before their daughter was taking it from them.

George Anthony told investigators in this interview in early August that he lost the family’s fortune in an email scheme. “I should have know better I was stupid, but every phone number and every address that was given to me I followed up with it everything sounded legitimate and I got scammed.”

He said he fell for a scheme that said he had $2.2 million dollars in a foreign bank account waiting for him. he told the FBI it was stupid that he was smarter than that but the damage was done and his wife never knew. “I did lie to my wife about that told her I was involved in some gambling type stuff and it wasn’t it wasn’t about that, it never ever, ever was.” ...”


It doesn’t prove anything except that George, Casey and Cindy lie. (Not sure abut Lee) A dysfunctional family is built, in part, upon lies. Many of the lies are in the form of denial.

Casey is not a ‘bad seed’. She did not become the woman she is today in a vacuum. Lest anyone misunderstands, only Casey is responsible for her actions. But none of them are saints.


380 posted on 07/03/2011 10:50:49 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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