Posted on 07/08/2011 5:39:04 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
Supposedly we still hang people for treason. That would work for me.
Any bets it's still there by the end of the day?
Your condescending enumerations fail to explain why THIS speech is a “smoking gun”.
And yes, I’m familiar with all those points.
And no, the fact that a distinguished non-hack media person coined and applied “gunwalker” does not change the fact that “gunwalker” was coined and applied by a media person, and was not an official label.
And BTW, I’ve been following this since Brian Terry was killed; I then speculated ATF et al was complicit in the smuggling.
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Bingo! I started to post this article this morning and then thought better of it for exactly the reasons you have outlined.
Too bad Holder isn’t a white Republican. As it is, if a video existed of him turning over a truckload of guns to a Mexican druglord, only the blogosphere would know about it.
Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels. My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion. DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail.
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What was the MAJOR NEW EFFORT Holder was talking about along the border?
hhhhmmmmmm????????
Important snippet for sure. I just am getting the same feelings as others that the MSM is conflating the two programs in an all out effort to tie this to Bush instead of Obama. Bush actually made arrests and got the guns back. Obama let them walk to the cartels,marxists and probably Hezbollah in Mexico and South America.
It also came out that some of the straw buyers may have been DEA and FBI paid informants.
So yes, this speech does show Holder knew what was going on.
“So yes, this speech does show Holder knew what was going on.”
It certainly looks that way, but because he doesn’t spell out what those new programs are...at least in this speech..we are still left with unanswered questions. We all know that he knew what was going on but it will take supoenas and special investigators to really get to the bottom of it all. These people plan in the shadows....not out in the open.
Agreed, but it shows he was involved with ATF closely and can’t say they were doing their own thing.
You might be interested in this thread just posted too:
Timeline of Fast and Furious
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2745624/posts
That’s a good question...and that’s also the reason it isn’t a smoking gun.
People are jumping on my saying its not a smoking gun.
Of course this is!
Do they think Holder is going to openly admit to this craziness?
Yes - but it shows that holder should at least be called back to explain what he was referring to at the time. Remember - the stim bill had just passed, the $$$$ appropriated, etc.
I hate this communist criminal conspiracy known as the Obama Admn as much as anyone, and i know there is something here.
What was this new iniative on the border he was talking about if it wasnt F&F that was launched at the same time?
What did Holder know and when did he know it!
I just called Issa’s DC office to make sure he has this info.
I also thanked him and said millions of Americans are praying for him.
I don’t think folks are jumping on you personally...just warning folks of what the MSM is up to conflating the two programs. Don’t worry..you have pointed out an important snippet in the piece. Folks can make up their own minds. We are all in this together.
A google news search is disheartening because virtually none of the mainstream newspapers and news outlets are covering this. But it will slowly make its way to the forefront. It’s too big to dismiss or ignore.
Definately!
Bachmann needs to be hammering this daily, same with Sarah, RP, etc.
Screw Romney, he is useless.
If Bachmann or Sarah started hammering this, same with RP, it would blow up.
Definately!
Bachmann needs to be hammering this daily, same with Sarah, RP, etc.
Screw Romney, he is useless.
If Bachmann or Sarah started hammering this, same with RP, it would blow up.
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