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Analysis of M.E. Report of Caylee - [Vanity]
Vanity | 7/9/2011 | Self

Posted on 07/09/2011 3:32:01 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen

From the Medical Examiner’s Report on Caylee Anthony: _________________________________________________________

Conclusion/Opinion: As often is the case with a skeletonized individual, the exact cause of death cannot be determined with certainty. The manner of death is an opinion based on available information, including circumstances surrounding the death, information from the scene, and examination of the skeletal remains.

The circumstances of death are that this toddler child, with no known medical history, was not reported missing to authorities for approximately 30 days. This child’s remains were eventually found in a wooded, overgrown area, discarded with two trash bags and a laundry bag. Although there is no trauma evident on the skeleton, there is duct tape over the lower facial region still attached to head hair. This duct tape was clearly placed prior to decomposition, keeping the mandible in place.

The clustering of vertebrae at the scene separate from the location of the bags and skull indicate animal activity occurring at this location after decomposition started, but before complete disarticulation of the skeleton. This indicates the body was put in this location prior to complete skeletonization. The roots growing into the vertebrae and bags indicate that the body was placed there months prior to being found. There is nothing inconsistent with the body being placed there soon after the date of being last seen alive.

It is, thus, my opinion that, although the cause of death cannot be determined with certainty, the manner of death is homicide.


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To: LADY J

can you even begin to imagine a little child being torn apart from animals while you are out partying??? Dear God...some people have no souls. They are deep, dark and dangerous.


21 posted on 07/09/2011 8:43:24 PM PDT by cubreporter (From TEA to Shining TEA - Go Rush Limbaugh..a giant of all that is good.)
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To: berdie

The mother already said the kid died and it was an accident.

The kid was put in a bag like they bury their dogs and dumped in the swamp. Then she went out to party.

There won’t be anymore investigation because there is nobody else to investigate.


22 posted on 07/09/2011 8:47:51 PM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy

Well, I don’t know if I agree.

They may have not been able to prove that Mom did it.

But somebody did. Why stop the investigation?

So it was an admitted accident. I can live with that. But who the heck participated?


23 posted on 07/09/2011 9:15:39 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Joe 6-pack

Interesting.

And very possible.


24 posted on 07/09/2011 9:24:20 PM PDT by berdie
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To: PieterCasparzen

Ping for tomorrow


25 posted on 07/09/2011 9:28:40 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Joe 6-pack

“ergo, the post-mortem use of duct tape. “

ah, so.


26 posted on 07/09/2011 10:38:19 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: berdie

Evidence consistent with human decomposition was found in the trunk of a car belonging to a Florida woman charged with killing her 3-year-old daughter.

“Both odor analysis and LIBS results appear to be quite consistent with a decompositional event having occurred in the trunk of the vehicle,” said the report from Tennessee’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory.

Testing was conducted on air and carpet samples from the vehicle. The tests indicated “the presence of the five key major compounds associated with human decomposition,” the report said.

The tests also found “an unusually large concentration of chloroform” in the trunk, according to the Oak Ridge report.

The report also says evidence of possible decomposition was found on a hair located among debris in the trunk. The hair is “microscopically similar” to one recovered from Caylee’s hair brush, the report said.


27 posted on 07/09/2011 10:47:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: berdie

FBI test results show hair and a stain in the trunk of Casey Anthony’s car belong to her daughter, 3-year-old Caylee Anthony. Eyewitness News was also told the evidence found proves that she is dead.

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The released court records reveal how Orange County Detective Yuri Melich grilled her, saying she could seem “cold, callous and a monster who doesn’t care, who’s just trying to get away with something.” He told her Caylee “may not be the way we or the way your family last remembers her. We need to find out from you where Caylee is. This, this, this right now is just, this has gone so far down hill and this has become such a mess.”

Casey replied, “Uh-huh.” Then Melich said, “We need to end it. It’s very simple. We just need to end it.” Casey answered, “I agree with you. I have no clue where she is.”

The documents also show Casey’s parents actually led investigators to search a new depression in the dirt near their backyard pool after they had done their own search and that they had their own lawyer the day after her arrest. The documents include a poem Anthony wrote on July 7, eight days before she reported her daughter missing: “What is given, Can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies.”

The State Attorney’s Office released the more than 400 pages of documents Monday. Eyewitness News found out Casey wanted to give little Caylee up for adoption before she was born, but her mother, Cindy Anthony, was against it. Casey’s own mother called her a sociopath and warned friends to stay away from her. Casey’s ex-fiancé told detectives she had deleted more than 200 pictures of her with her daughter Caylee that were posted online.

According to the transcripts, hours before Casey’s arrest one detective told her, “Caylee’s out there somewhere and her rotting body is starting to decompose.” Casey replied, “I know my mom will never forgive me. I’m never going to forgive myself because there’s that chance that I may not see Caylee again and I don’t want to think about that.”

The documents also show investigators grilled Casey about what happened to her daughter, telling her after the lies she told them they were thinking either she “gave Caylee to someone that you don’t want anyone to find out because you think you’re a bad mom or something happened to Caylee and Caylee’s buried somewhere or in a trash can somewhere and you had something to do with it.”

Casey kept insisting to investigators the last time she saw Caylee was June 9. The detective told her, “The longer this goes the worse it’s gonna be for everyone, everyone.”

Casey kept insisting she doesn’t know what happened to her except that she was last with Zenaida the nanny, who no one knows. She also told investigators she’s absolutely petrified.

http://tinyurl.com/3rcum9a


28 posted on 07/09/2011 10:55:25 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: berdie

Friends told Eyewitness News Casey celebrated Independence Day with her boyfriend Tony Lazarro. She partied and cooked dinner for him and his roommate.

Friends said Lazzaro believed she worked as an event planner at Universal Studios for the two months they were together. She told him her boss allowed her to work from her computer at his Winter Park apartment.

They found out later from her family she wasn’t earning the money she was spending. Instead, Casey was running up her mother’s credit cards.

When Casey called Lazarro for a ride from the Amscot where she abandoned her car, she claimed it had broken down and that her father was going to get it to a shop later. That car holds some of the most significant evidence investigators have revealed, possible evidence of Caylee’s hair, a suspicious stain and the odor of human decomposition, all in the trunk.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17136371/detail.html


29 posted on 07/09/2011 11:04:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: PieterCasparzen

Why would anyone duct tape a little girls mouth after she was dead? Her mother is guilty of criminal negligence, criminal abuse, and at the very minimum, manslaughter. When a friend of a person going into a grocery store to rob, and kill a clerk drives away, he is guilty of murder, or manslaughter at minimum. The woman is guilty, and easily proven to be in a court. The fact that the jury could not even go that far proves that they were incompetent.


30 posted on 07/10/2011 12:21:51 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: berdie

How could they overcharge, when they presented evidence for murder, manslaughter and lying to authorities? They were given an out with the manslaughter, but could not convict because the girl was attractive and female. If it was an unattractive father, he would be looking at the gallows now.


31 posted on 07/10/2011 12:24:01 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Bryan24

BING BING BING.....we have a winner, and a logical mind.


32 posted on 07/10/2011 12:24:52 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Persevero
But why would you put duct tape on a dead child’s mouth?

You’d put it on her while she was still alive. To keep her quiet.

After she is dead is serves no purpose.

So I think she was duct taped prior to dying.


Perhaps you have you never heard of corpse desecration...
33 posted on 07/10/2011 12:59:36 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (It's not difficult.)
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To: kcvl

Did you even read my first post ?


34 posted on 07/10/2011 1:12:58 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (It's not difficult.)
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To: berdie
One of the big questions I have had.

Will the investigators close this case?


They would need somebody to talk to give them evidence on a new suspect as far as I can see, perhaps as an accessory.

Anyone who names names would be making problems.

Casey, of course, is protected from double jeopardy.
35 posted on 07/10/2011 1:27:57 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (It's not difficult.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I, too, say that the prosecution did not prove their case. Here in Tennessee a Janet March’s wife “disappeared” in August 1996. No body has ever been found and no evidence of foul play was ever found, yet the prosecution was able to convict her husband of murder in 2005.

Perry March's father admitted to helping him move the body of his wife, testified against him in a plea deal and received jail time.

None of Casey's family members or friends testified that they helped her move the body.
36 posted on 07/10/2011 1:42:37 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (It's not difficult.)
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To: Bryan24

Same way it would get there if it was a homicide. Someone had to “package” that poor baby and dump her in the trees. That still doesn’t give a cause of death. To folks like you and me it seems obvious that indicates murder- trouble with that is many, many times people have hidden dead bodies that weren’t murdered- for different reasons, mostly mental.

The duct tape is puzzling to me- why murder a child with duct tape when she had a pool to drown her in to make it look like an accident? If she killed her in a rage at her mother like many think then why didn’t she just physically strangle her or something like that? Seems like a lot of trouble to do the duct tape thing, strange murder method.

This whole case is so strange, problem is we are trying to make sense of something that a mentally ill person did. Casey is without a doubt mentally ill- that doesn’t in any way excuse whatever she did- lots of folks in prison and even death row with mental issues. She was determined to be sane enough to stand trial but she is far from sane.

The very least she did is trash her baby even if the baby didn’t die as a result of anything she did to her. From there it goes to leaving the child alone for someone else to harm, or her to harm herself, die from heat in the car- drug the baby so she could party and overdose given- some combination of that all the way to cold blooded murder. Casey is definately guilty- but of what?

If I had been on the jury I would have fought tooth and nail for at least the child abuse conviction. I don’t know that I could have fought for the other charges but I wouldn’t have caved all the way. I do think the prosecutor and jury dropped the ball.


37 posted on 07/10/2011 8:16:17 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Joe 6-pack; Persevero
>>"But why would you put duct tape on a dead child’s mouth?...After she is dead is serves no purpose."<<

Or perhaps someone wanted the skull to remain intact knowing that the mandible would separate after decomposition in hopes of identification of the remains at some point in the future they put the tape there. A nurse would understand that wouldn’t they? Who was the nurse?

38 posted on 07/10/2011 8:53:42 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: kcvl
>>The tests also found “an unusually large concentration of chloroform” in the trunk, according to the Oak Ridge report.<<

Chloroform dissipates upon exposure to air. There is no possibility that chloroform could be detected from an instance that occurred months before. Chloroform is formed when chlorine is combined with moisture and heat. When you open the door to a dishwasher and steam escapes there is probably chloroform present because of the chlorine in the detergent. If there was laundry detergent residue in the trunk and moisture was present chloroform could have been produced in the Florida heat. Besides, the detector used was not proven or even peer reviewed to prove effectiveness.

Most of the other results were refuted by other so called expert witnesses.

39 posted on 07/10/2011 9:02:34 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: indylindy
The mother already said the kid died and it was an accident.

I don't remember that. Could you give me a cite please?

40 posted on 07/10/2011 9:03:38 AM PDT by saminfl
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