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IDC: Apple Mac took 10.7% share of U.S. PC market in Q211
MacDailyNews ^ | Wednesday, July 13, 2011 · 5:54 pm 

Posted on 07/14/2011 4:07:36 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: BunnySlippers

What does that have to do with where computers are made? You can order Dell and HP laptops and computers with no operating system loaded so you can use Linux.

To the best of my knowledge, Apple does zero manufacturing or assembly of computers inside the US; it’s 100% contract manufacturing in China.


21 posted on 07/14/2011 6:54:37 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines
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To: FromTheSidelines
Dell and HP both do some system and final assembly in Texas (Round Rock and Houston, respectively). That is more computer manufacturing within the US than done by Apple.

Apple is primarily a marketing and distribution company. They are overseers of the Chinese plantation (FoxComm) where iPads are assembled by  coolies from 99% Asian components. Some claim Apple does design, software and engineering in America but most of that is farmed out to the Taiwanese who are the world's foremost cell phone and laptop geniuses.

My distillation is >>>> Apple/ designed in Taiwan, made in China, marketed from Cupertino California

22 posted on 07/14/2011 6:58:03 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: BunnySlippers

#22


23 posted on 07/14/2011 6:58:59 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: FromTheSidelines
Dell and HP both do some system and final assembly in Texas (Round Rock and Houston, respectively). That is more computer manufacturing within the US than done by Apple.

Apple does exactly the same kind of special order system customization at Apple's Elk Grove, Ca, facility, as HP and Dell does at those facilities.

24 posted on 07/14/2011 6:59:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone. See swordmaker....macbots really do post ga)
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To: FromTheSidelines

Would you prefer I say I will never buy Dell (super true)or an HP?

Have you bought your current computer based on where it is made? Or on the OS maker’s ideology? PC people want us to do it all the time. It is constantly referred to. You are an example.


25 posted on 07/14/2011 6:59:41 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Swordmaker

In that case, Mac OS should be up to about 100,000 viruses, because obscurity was the only reason for security. /sarc

Thanks SM.

Is there a new MB Air out?


26 posted on 07/14/2011 7:02:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dennisw
Some claim Apple does design, software and engineering in America but most of that is farmed out to the Taiwanese who are the world's foremost cell phone and laptop geniuses.

Cut out the lies. Dennis. You are spreading your FUD again. Your lies are not appreciated.

27 posted on 07/14/2011 7:03:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone. See swordmaker....macbots really do post ga)
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To: BunnySlippers
Would you prefer I say I will never buy Dell (super true)or an HP?

What makes you say that?

Have you bought your current computer based on where it is made?

You asked the question, I answered. Apparently you have taken offense at what I posted? Is there some latent anger that I have tapped?

28 posted on 07/14/2011 7:03:41 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines
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To: tubebender

Hmm... “ http://www.FreudRepublic.com/ “ ...


29 posted on 07/14/2011 7:05:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FromTheSidelines

You can’t find any problem with Dell!

And you answer questions with questions.

Enjoy Windows. Dude, you got a Dell!


30 posted on 07/14/2011 7:07:37 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Swordmaker

TTBOMK, most Dell and HP desktop, workstation and server systems ordered from their website are assembled in the US. Is that the case for the desktops (iMac and Mac Mini) that are ordered from the Apple website?


31 posted on 07/14/2011 7:08:58 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines
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To: BunnySlippers
You can’t find any problem with Dell!

Where did I claim or hint at that? I merely answered your question, and apparently the answer was not what you sought and it upset you.

And you answer questions with questions.

Only when the questions don't make sense. I answered your question about where PCs are built rather directly, at least in terms of Dell and HP. You then dodged to some other issue altogether, and I was curious about why the deflect to another point.

Enjoy Windows. Dude, you got a Dell!

Actually, I have an HP G71 laptop and a 2008 Macbook Pro. I do cross-platform development and so support Windows, a dozen variants of Linux, and OSX.

32 posted on 07/14/2011 7:12:17 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines
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To: FromTheSidelines
TTBOMK, most Dell and HP desktop, workstation and server systems ordered from their website are assembled in the US. Is that the case for the desktops (iMac and Mac Mini) that are ordered from the Apple website?

The last two Dell Inspiron desktops a client ordered for delivery in January took three weeks to deliver were assembled in China and were shipped from there. Foxconn assembles most of Dell's computers for the US market as of 2011. Here is a partial report of what's been happening:

Assembly of desktop computers for the North American market formerly took place at Dell plants in Austin, Texas (original location) and Lebanon, Tennessee (opened in 1999). The plant in Winston-Salem, North Carolina (opened in 2005) is scheduled to cease operations in November 2010, while the Miami, Florida facility of its Alienware subsidiary remains in operation. Dell servers come from Austin, Texas.

Dell's desktop plant in Austin, Texas was shut down in 2008. It closed its desktop manufacturing in Lebanon in early 2009. The last major U.S. plant in North Carolina is scheduled to close in November 2010.[45] It is expected that most of the work carried out in North Carolina will be transferred to contract manufacturers in Asia and Mexico, though Dell said some of the work will move to its own factories overseas.[46] Dell assembles computers for the EMEA market at Limerick in the Republic of Ireland, and employs about 4,500 people in that country. Dell began manufacturing in Limerick in 1991 and went on to become Ireland's largest exporter of goods and its second-largest company and foreign investor. On January 8, 2009, Dell announced that it would move all Dell manufacturing in Limerick to Dell's new plant in the Polish city of Łódź by January 2010.[47] European Union officials said they would investigate a €52.7million aid package the Polish government used to attract Dell away from Ireland.[48] European Manufacturing Facility 1 (EMF1, opened in 1990) and EMF3 form part of the Raheen Industrial Estate near Limerick. EMF2 (previously a Wang facility, later occupied by Flextronics, situated in Castletroy) closed in 2002,[citation needed] and Dell Inc. has consolidated production into EMF3 (EMF1 now[when?] contains only offices).[49] Subsidies from the Polish government did not keep Dell for a long time. Manufacturing Facility in Lodz was sold to Foxconn as announced in Dec 2009.[50]

Dell's Alienware subsidiary also manufactures PCs in an Athlone, Ireland plant. Construction of EMF4 in Łódź, Poland has started: Dell started production there in autumn 2007.[51]

Dell opened plants in Penang, Malaysia in 1995, and in Xiamen, China in 1999. These facilities serve the Asian market and assemble 95% of Dell notebooks. Dell Inc. has invested[when?] an estimated $60 million in a new manufacturing unit in Chennai, India, to support the sales of its products in the Indian subcontinent. Indian-made products will bear the "Made in India" mark. In 2007 the Chennai facility had the target of producing 400,000 desktop PCs, and plans envisaged it starting to produce notebook PCs and other products in the second half of 2007.[citation needed]

Dell moved desktop and PowerEdge server manufacturing for the South American market from the Eldorado do Sul plant opened in 1999, to a new plant in Hortolandia, Brazil in 2007.[52]


33 posted on 07/14/2011 7:33:15 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone. See swordmaker....macbots really do post ga)
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To: FromTheSidelines

When did I suggest I was upset? That is in your mind.

I’m enjoying a balmy dusk watching the dogs playing in the backyard!


34 posted on 07/14/2011 7:39:22 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: FromTheSidelines; BunnySlippers
You can order Dell and HP laptops and computers with no operating system loaded so you can use Linux.

That is true, but how many people are going to do that? As someone who did just that and ran Linux for 10 years, I can tell you: a minuscule percentage.

Still, I think Linux is a great way to learn a Unix operating system. When you move on to a great Unix like Mac OS X, you will appreciate the power and sophistication of the Mac.

35 posted on 07/14/2011 7:41:30 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: Swordmaker

Go for it! Give me your estimate on iPad. How much is designed and engineered in USA and how much in Taiwan. Go ask your friends in Cupertino for some stats on that. Everyone except you knows that Taiwan rules all laptops, netbooks, cell phones, smart phones etc >>>>> iPads and tablets too. The Jobs gang is simply piggybacking on their success and genius

Jobs gang = marketing and distribution


36 posted on 07/14/2011 7:45:07 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: tubebender; Bookwoman
> My question is.. should my new iMac be the 24 or 27 screen?

I was once told that "size doesn't matter". But I think she was lying (she was of "trim" design herself).

IMO it depends on how close/far you sit from the screen. A huge screen, close up, is just as much of a disaster as a small screen far away.

If you like to sit back 3 feet or more (the way I do), the 27" will rock your world.

If you like to sit close-up, you might do better with the 24", since you'll be able to take it all in easier and not miss what's happening at the edges.

Of course, YMMV.

37 posted on 07/14/2011 7:53:57 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dennisw; Swordmaker

Manny Pacquiao HP TouchPad with WebOS Commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzjqH3FBnko

Beats jive turkey iPad any day of the week


38 posted on 07/14/2011 8:08:22 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: dayglored

It also depends on the fact my desk is 5’ wide with a 23” TV to the left and a 20” printer on the right and the current 20” iMac over laps both so it will be a 24” unless I put up a wall mount for the TV...


39 posted on 07/14/2011 8:14:30 PM PDT by tubebender (The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some very good ideas)
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To: dennisw
Go for it! Give me your estimate on iPad. How much is designed and engineered in USA and how much in Taiwan. Go ask your friends in Cupertino for some stats on that. Everyone except you knows that Taiwan rules all laptops, netbooks, cell phones, smart phones etc >>>>> iPads and tablets too. The Jobs gang is simply piggybacking on their success and genius

Sure they are, Dennis, sure they are. Where are all the Taiwanese tablets that are so far in advance of the Apple products that Apple is copying and just applying their marketing on???

40 posted on 07/14/2011 11:51:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone. See swordmaker....macbots really do post ga)
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