Posted on 08/07/2011 4:10:37 PM PDT by DBCJR
U.S. soldiers from the 2nd Brigade, 87th Infantry Regiment, 10th Mountain Division, secure the area after existing a Chinoonk helicopter, Helmand Province, southern Afghanistan, in this Sunday, June 18, 2006 file photo. Insurgents apparently shot down a U.S. military helicopter Saturday Aug. 6, 2011 similar to this one shown during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite Navy SEALs unit that killed Usama bin Laden, as well as seven Afghan commandos, U.S. officials said.
An Afghan official says there is fighting in the area where a U.S. Army Chinook helicopter was apparently shot down Saturday by the Taliban, killing 38, including more than 20 Navy Seals from the unit that killed Usama bin Laden in May.
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The media has been saying that the SEALS on the Chinook were NOT involved in the Bin Laden takedown.
They are from the same unit..... SEAL Team 6 - but were not the same men.
Time for a full court press and clean up the entire area.
This is sad!
There is no coherent information in the fox report that would give the public accurate information as to what actually happened. Disjointed statements from various “spokesmen”, etc, amounting to diinformation, the way it reads. We have suffered a serious military defeat, blow to morale, and the enemy has gained a propoganda victory.
Who will be held responsible for this disaster?
If you only knew the truth, when the news broke about the downed chopper there were high-fives all around in certain areas at the White Hut.....from the ineligible muzzie leader on down! I don’t trust the man as far as I could throw his old lady!
He did say he’d stand by his Muslim brothers if things got thick.
The Chinook, a highly sophisticate copter, was taken down by a 60’s generation RPG. That’s a little suspect. Maybe a little lucky on their part, maybe not.
RPG’s are not guided, so it has to be a very lucky hit to bring down a Chinook.
If the cause were instead a bomb brought on-board by the ANA, would they SAY that this were the case?
Never.
I also don’t think the mission was a standard QRF, nope —prolly was a snatch gone bad.
We do NOT use large precision Bombs anymore just blow the enemy to vapor,or have to do Operations like this ,boots on the ground? Need to leave that crap hole or hire some NEW commanders, that know how to win!
And how do you know that? From personal observation?
Just WTF are we still doing in Afghanistan anyway?
Thanks DBCJR.
“Just WTF are we still doing in Afghanistan anyway?”
Excellent Point!
It has given the enemy a propaganda victory.
No one in this administration can keep his mouth shut.
No one.
It was an RPG that brought down a Black Hawk helicopter in Somalia. At close range, the RPG can bring down a chopper. There is no doubt. It takes a few bad circumstances coming together. For certain, the pilot must not have known there were ground forces so close to where he was putting the chopper down.
I hope they level the place so there nothing left...not even a freaking blade of grass...much less a poppy plant left standing...
The Chinook was initially produced by Boeing Vertol in the early 1960s. (And has) been sold to 16 nations… The CH-47 is among the heaviest lifting Western helicopters.
Improved and more powerful versions...have been developed since the helicopter entered service. (Including) the now-common CH-47D, which entered service in 1982.
The latest...is the CH-47F, which features…upgraded engines, composite rotor blades, a redesigned cockpit to reduce pilot workload, improved and redundant electrical systems, an advanced flight control system and improved avionics…(plus) several major upgrades to reduce maintenance, digitized flight controls…(it)is powered by two 4,733-horsepower Honeywell engines.
It's a great bird, sophisticated - yes, improved - yes, but not so much removed from those '60s RPGs.
PS: By their very nature any hilo is susceptible even to primitive ground fire, particularly in the low and slow insertion and extraction mode.
I'd be more inclined to think the bad guys had observed our ops enough times to have a good idea that they'd have a target and where it would be coming from/going to; and they set up for it.
After all, they are skilled at setting a second bomb to nail the responders to the first bomb and the same concept would apply.
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