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Rick Perry: Rhinestone Cowboy
08/12/2011 | Brices Crossroads

Posted on 08/12/2011 9:56:32 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads

Rick Perry is rapidly becoming known as a politician who talks a good game, but whose actions belie his words. Last year, he waved the bloody shirt of secession, which horrified the New York Times...until they dug deeper and found that Perry wasn't just talking about seceding. He was aiming to hook up with Mexico in order to fulfill his "shared with [Mexican President] Vincente Fox for open borders." Seriously, though, Perry is becoming a caricature of himself. He first waved the tenth Amendment on gay marriage and abortion, first supporting the interpretations that states should be responsible for defining marriage and related issues, and in a flip-flop worthy of Mitt Romney, came out in favor of a federal constitutional amendment to ban both.

Perry's open borders positions tell us that he is not a conservative. His political pan-gyrations on gay marriage, abortion, and the Tenth Amendment suggest he is not reliable there either, but would trim his sails at the slightest pressure.

Well, he must be good on something. How would he handle judicial appointments, for example. Bear in mind that in Texas, in contrast to states such as Alaska (where a Commission presents the Governor with three choices from which he or she MUST select a Judge), the Texas Governor has pretty much unfettered control of the appointments process to fill judicial vacancies. In a conservative state like Texas, it would be easy to remake the courts in a conservative mold. In fact, it would almost follow de facto, since the appointed justices must face election state wide. No doubt Perry will try to take credit for the relatively conservative state of the Texas judiciary as he has done with the Texas economy when the relative health of both has been more in spite of, than because of, Rick Perry.

I have not done an exhaustive study of Perry's judicial appointments, although undoubtedly conservatives in Texas would have done so. I found one particular judicial appointment, the subsequent election, and Perry's reaction to it to be most instructive about his orientation toward strong judicial conservatives.

In 2001, one of Perry's first selections to succeed the staunchly conservative Greg Abbot (who had been elected Attorney General) was Xavier Rodriguez, a self-described moderate. In trying to move the Texas Supreme Court to the left, he drew the ire of conservatives in Texas. An up and coming young conservative, Steven Wayne Smith stepped forward to challenge Rodriguez. Smith, who was superbly qualified, had argued and won the landmark 1996 case of Hopwood v. Texas which successfully challenged affirmative action at the University of Texas Law School. In effect, he was a hero to conservatives in Texas and an anathema to the Establishment. The Establishment, including Perry and John Cornyn, no doubt detested Smith for dismantling affirmative action at the UT Law School. But when Smith stepped forward to challenge a self proclaimed moderate appointment of Perry, who happened to be Hispanic, that was the last straw. Perry and his cronies in the Establishment did all they could to stop Smith but he prevailed over Rodriguez easily and was in stalled as a justice of the Texas Supreme Court.

In 2004, Perry encouraged a challenger to run against Smith. The Establishment lined up with Cornyn and Perry on one side and the Texas Eagle Forum,Kent Hance and Ward Connerly on the other. This time the Establishment prevailed and Smith was defeated. He attempted a comeback in 2006, but Perry recruited another challenger, less conservative than Smith, and he lost by less than 1%.

Perry's actions, and his vindictive crusade against an up and coming conservative legal superstar, suggest that a Perry Presidency would be more likely to yield David Souters and Harriet Miers than Antonin Scalias and Clarence Thomases. When it comes to Rick Perry, the message to the Federalist Society and constitutional conservatives is caveat emptor.

KEYWORDS: palin; perry; rickperry; rinoricky; sarahpalin; sourcelessvanity; vanity
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To: GunRunner
You should realize the entire Texas GOP is held hostage by Big AG and TWO HUGE Grocery store owners in TX.
Perry or anyone else needs tons of money to take them on and win those battles. The local GOP are stuck because of them.
Its sad.
61 posted on 08/12/2011 10:56:53 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: drypowder
Someone needs to ask Mr. Perry, a simple rancher and state governor, what it is that made him worthy of getting invited to one of their meetings.

He is Governor of the 15th largest economy in the world.

62 posted on 08/12/2011 10:57:48 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Nothing against Gov. Perry but the ONLY candidate I’ll enthusiastically support is Gov. Sarah Palin.

63 posted on 08/12/2011 10:57:58 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: wolfcreek

Regardless of how “monotonous” it may be getting for some,
I don’t have entire days to “keep up” with all that’s presented on FR.

That’s why I asked for those who are demonstrating against the OP and any who even give the appearance of support to the information, to offer rebuttal information if the OP’s comments are/were off the mark.

The OP gave me his POV, which I will research since it appears none here are ready or willing to provide a factual or relevant rebuttal.

64 posted on 08/12/2011 10:59:34 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: SoConPubbie

You don’t know chit about it so why do you keep running with it.

Maybe Smith lost because he wasn’t what he said he was.

Hopwood v. Texas

“Smith was an attorney in the controversial Hopwood v. TexasHopwood v. Texas
In the early 1990s, Smith filed a lawsuit against the University of Texas School of Law on behalf of white applicants, including Cheryl Hopwood, who argued they had been denied entry because the school used affirmative action to bolster minority enrollment. The case was decided in favor of the students and Smith later trumped that success during his campaigns. Smith’s opponents and many newspapers attacked him for this success. His campaign manager, David Rogers, was one of the Hopwood plaintiffs.”

65 posted on 08/12/2011 11:01:33 AM PDT by wolfcreek (
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To: Tex-Con-Man

woohoo! V is for......

66 posted on 08/12/2011 11:03:17 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: MestaMachine

lol, just dig deep then...when you are looking at the Gardasil incident, dig very very deep. One, into the make up of the Texas legislature in 2007 and the changes they made in all the education bill while they got the chance to muck ruck around in it. Every time democrats open up a bill on one issue, they use that excuse to pluck around in the whole piece of legislation.

When you start digging around about the Trans Texas Corridor, first understand that it was legislated by the US Congress, not Rick Perry, and that it is being built today because the US Congress ordered it, not Rick Perry. And if you want to knnow what his thinking was, ask me. I was on the ad hoc committe from my county. I sat in a meeting with Rick Perry who explained exactly what his thinking was originally and the problems he ran into AFTER the design.

67 posted on 08/12/2011 11:04:05 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC; All
Hey huckleberry, Perry's got a Muslim problem too.

Defend THIS:

[Governor Rick Perry] Commemorating the [Muslim Leader] Aga Khan's Visit (April 12, 2008)

68 posted on 08/12/2011 11:04:33 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: JohnBrownUSA; Quill Pen; The Iceman Cometh; Norm Lenhart; Springfield Reformer; ...


69 posted on 08/12/2011 11:06:02 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SZonian

I’ve posted this on another thread, but you may not have seen it so here is my take on Perry.

Perry’s support of Giuliani alone should be a deal killer for any conservative looking for a candidate.

Giuliani is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-amnesty, anti-Bill of Rights, and he is corrupt. In fact he would be in jail except his crimes were uncovered after the statutes of limitations had run out.

On top of all of that, Giuliani’s wife had to get a court order to keep him from bringing his strumpet into the family home. His wife and kids first found out he was filing for a divorce when he announced it in a press conference.

ANYONE who would support someone like Giuliani for elected office does not have the judgement to be president.

70 posted on 08/12/2011 11:06:44 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Give up on the Perry hate.

71 posted on 08/12/2011 11:08:20 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: ncalburt
Didn't you ASTROTURF NON STOP against Meg Whitman and Help Get Jerry Brown and the Dems take over Calif ???

No, I pointed out what a horrible candidate Meg Whitman was for her support of tax-payer funded abortion

Your approval of any GOP candidate no matter how bad they are just highlights my problem with some Perry supporters.

They operate from a position of fear of losing to Obama, vs. finding a GOOD conservative candidate.
72 posted on 08/12/2011 11:08:31 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: deport

73 posted on 08/12/2011 11:09:03 AM PDT by luckybogey
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

And this is a problem, why?

74 posted on 08/12/2011 11:10:54 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

I have, and I have also been asking Texans on this board for their opinions as well. It’s about split. The ONE BIG THING that has made me a little more than queasy is his affiliation with the head honcho muslim, aga khan. THAT bothers me. A LOT.
My FAVORITE Texan said he would prefer Perry to stay in Texas, not be president, because Texans have kept him under control. Not my words. His. I took that to heart. Is that wrong?

75 posted on 08/12/2011 11:11:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: RowdyFFC
You didn't read his speech did you?

If you did, then you agree with his pandering to Muslims and promoting multiculturalism?

76 posted on 08/12/2011 11:12:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SZonian
Sorry if I came off a bit gruff. I'm getting sick of these sound byte/innuendo driven Perry-haters constantly hijacking these threads.

From looking at you profile, I notice you and Gov. Perry share some things.

He was a pilot in the USAF and a Scout. Even wrote a book about Scouts.

Please do take the time and research Rick Perry to make your judgment.

77 posted on 08/12/2011 11:15:19 AM PDT by wolfcreek (
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To: GunRunner

To my knowledge, no California governor has ever been invited so why would Perry? Maybe his invite had something to do with the 2 mile wide super highway and rail system from Mexico to Canada that he supports.

78 posted on 08/12/2011 11:15:45 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: ncalburt

Really? Who are the 2 HUge Grocerystore and Big Ag owners?

79 posted on 08/12/2011 11:18:59 AM PDT by wolfcreek (
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To: SoConPubbie
It doesn't exonerate him and I never claimed it did. Perry supported who he thought was the best pick and that appears to have been a mistake. Sandra Day O'Connor was also a moderate and turned out, imho, to be a mistake. If what I read is true, this guy Smith (good guy) won by a substantial margin against Rodriguez (bad guy) during the primary in 2001. In 2004, Smith (good guy) lost in the primary to Paul Green (?). Clearly, the voters rejected Perry's candidate in 2001. For some reason though, these same voters chose not to support Smith just three years later. Maybe there's more to the story than the originator of this thread is offering.

Some folks are working pretty damn hard to demonize Rick Perry. I'm as skeptical of them as I am of any of the Republican candidates. Our country is on the express train into the sewer, and taking our liberty with it, so I'm not fixated on -- or frothing at the mouth over -- Gardasil, a superhighway and one judicial appointment. I'm still learning about Rick Perry and haven't made any decisions as to whom to support in the presidential primary, however, relying on input from people who can't keep these issues in perspective is probably not the best way to learn about Perry's position on important issues like illegal immigration, economic policy, national defense, the defense of life and the war on our culture.

80 posted on 08/12/2011 11:20:14 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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