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Mozilla Unleashes Firefox 6
Datamation ^ | 16 August 2011 | Sean Michael Kerner

Posted on 08/17/2011 4:46:57 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 08/17/2011 4:46:59 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 08/17/2011 4:47:53 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

The last version of Firefox for Android was disappointing; I’ll see if this one is any better.


4 posted on 08/17/2011 4:54:00 AM PDT by HerbieHoover
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To: ShadowAce

I’ve been a whole lot happier since switching from IE.

The first step was admitting that I had a problem.


5 posted on 08/17/2011 4:55:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: cripplecreek

Chrome for me.


6 posted on 08/17/2011 4:57:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

ChromePlus here. Switched from Firefox about 3 months ago.


7 posted on 08/17/2011 5:01:39 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Interesting—I hadn’t heard of ChromePlus before!


8 posted on 08/17/2011 5:04:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: expat1000

Chrome = 100% Google spyware. They know ever website you visit, search term used, etc.

At least with Firefox with Noscript, AdblockPlus, BetterPrivacy you can avoid tracking and spying.


9 posted on 08/17/2011 5:05:00 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: ShadowAce
Both Firefox 5 and 6 are part of Mozilla's new rapid release cycle, which aims to deliver more browser updates with incremental features.

If they have "incremental features" then why jump whole version numbers? I'm still running Firefox 3.6 so I've missed two "major" versions already.

10 posted on 08/17/2011 5:10:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
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To: ShadowAce
Did the FF 6 update this afternoon...works very well...so far. I do seem to note an increase in program response.
Mozilla also did an update on Thunderbird, their email client. It is also at 6.0 now.
11 posted on 08/17/2011 5:11:45 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: ShadowAce

Opera 11.5!


12 posted on 08/17/2011 5:13:00 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: ShadowAce

Opera 11.5!


13 posted on 08/17/2011 5:13:12 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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So nice, it posted twice.


14 posted on 08/17/2011 5:14:10 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: 9YearLurker

It has AdBlockplus, anon browsing,and mouse gestures built in. Search right from the address bar. I like the bookmark layout more than Firefox and I find I spend a lot less time messing around with addins than I did with Firefox. I go back to Firefox every now and then but keep on coming back to Chromeplus.

http://www.chromeplus.org/download.php


15 posted on 08/17/2011 5:22:11 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: 9YearLurker

I bailed on Chrome the morning after I watched an “It gets better” ad sponsored by Google (specifically, Google Chrome) a few months ago. Gotta stand for something.


16 posted on 08/17/2011 5:29:32 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: ShadowAce

It seems like just yesterday that they were stuck on 3.xx


17 posted on 08/17/2011 5:34:31 AM PDT by mikrofon (Putting 6 thru its paces)
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To: ShadowAce

Mozilla is getting ridiculous with their rapid releases.

I just upgraded to 5 (bypassing 4 altogether) a few weeks ago.

I looked on their website, but could not find a definitive list of improvements/changes for 6. Is it worth the effort? One earlier review (from a year or so ago) indicated that 6 would be only minor improvements with 7 being some significant improvements.

I lost a few extensions/add-ons when I upgraded from 3.6 to 5. How many might I lose upgrading to 6? I don’t know — I may not bother to find out, unless I can find a good description of what is new/better in 6.


18 posted on 08/17/2011 5:34:41 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: expat1000

The search in the address bar is part of the regular Chrome. What’s your favorite of ChromPlus’s added features?

My experience with Microsoft Office and such is that over-featured software becomes a real issue, but useful features are, well, useful.


19 posted on 08/17/2011 5:36:07 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: expat1000

The search in the address bar is part of the regular Chrome. What’s your favorite of ChromePlus’s added features?

My experience with Microsoft Office and such is that over-featured software becomes a real issue, but useful features are, well, useful.


20 posted on 08/17/2011 5:36:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ShadowAce

I never trusted Gill Bates and Gal Dore!

I do have IE on my PCs; but I don’t use it, mainly because so many pseudo-aMericans insist bad things will happen if I attempt to remove it...?????


21 posted on 08/17/2011 5:36:22 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: GreenAccord

I’ve got my own issues with Google. But is Microsoft any better? Certainly Facebook isn’t, though they’re not really relevant here.


22 posted on 08/17/2011 5:37:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: KarlInOhio
That's what I was thinking. Seems they are being taken over my marketing driods... "Got to have a major revision number update! That gives the users the impression there are big new things..." While delivering only incremental changes?
23 posted on 08/17/2011 5:45:26 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Adblock, mouse gestures - might be some other features that it has that the regular Chrome doesn’t that I’ve forgotten.

I did not spend a lot of time analyzing the difference between Chrome and Chromeplus. I found Chromeplus, tried it, liked it, decided it was a more comfortable fit than Firefox and so adopted it. Browsers are not a big deal to me.


24 posted on 08/17/2011 5:46:32 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: ShadowAce

I’ve had nothing but trouble with FF5 - it would hang. Will 6 make it better or worse? I had to switch to IE and believe me, I want OUT. I have a new machine with 12 gigs of RAM, quad processors, and Win7 Professional.


25 posted on 08/17/2011 5:50:50 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: expat1000
Oh, those c-r-a-z-y mouse gestures...heh!
26 posted on 08/17/2011 5:50:56 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: 9YearLurker; ShadowAce

This concern of ShadowAce - I got tired of that with Firefox.I guess I would say that Chromeplus fills all my needs out of the box. I haven’t added any add-ons at all. I was forever messing around with them with Firefox.

“I lost a few extensions/add-ons when I upgraded from 3.6 to 5. How many might I lose upgrading to 6”


27 posted on 08/17/2011 5:53:51 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Bookwoman
Will 6 make it better or worse?

I don't know--I'm still on 5.

28 posted on 08/17/2011 5:53:57 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: hummingbird

“Oh, those c-r-a-z-y mouse gestures...heh!”

I’m not sure how to take that!(?) But page-back/page-forward gestures which are all I ever use - those are essential to me.


29 posted on 08/17/2011 5:56:36 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: 9YearLurker
My experience with Microsoft Office and such is that over-featured software becomes a real issue, but useful features are, well, useful.

Many software developers think they have to add more to make it better. Thus, their product(s) become glutware.

I have uninstalled many for that very reason. I also get mad when they take out some feature(s), as those are usually the ones I used.

One example: My current XP firewall is about 7 meg. The newest version from the same company is over 35 meg.

I have dropped several virus programs for the same reason -- they become so glutted with unwanted features that they slow the computer to a crawl.

I just recently tried out Avast's version 6 which I had to uninstall. The version 6 has a built-in sandbox program which conflicts with an independent program called Sandboxie. Even turned off, the Avast sandbox causes Sandboxie to not work. I have used Sandboxie for years and would drop Avast before I drop Sandboxie.
30 posted on 08/17/2011 5:58:56 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: expat1000; 9YearLurker
Losing extensions is a legitimate concern. It's what makes each user's version of firefox theirs--it's what make it usable for them.

I honestly don't know which ones--if any--would be lost in the upgrade. I use several that seem to update themselves fairly quickly with each firefox update.

We'll see.

31 posted on 08/17/2011 5:59:38 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: TomGuy

The other thing is software that’s constantly ‘on’, communicating on the Internet, and taking up too many resources. My Lexmark All-In-One software is like that—never anything else from Lexmark for me!


32 posted on 08/17/2011 6:03:42 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Bookwoman
I’ve had nothing but trouble with FF5

It may be some of the extensions/add-ons/plug-ins you use. I have used FF5 on both XP and Win7 and had no trouble with it hanging up.

I did, however, install it clean -- uninstalled existing FF, then installed my add-ons. FF5 can install OVER the existing FF files, but it does not clean out unused items.


33 posted on 08/17/2011 6:04:16 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 9YearLurker
never anything else from Lexmark for me!

Same here. Several years ago, I bought a Lexmark inkjet locally (not many stores in this town of 14k). It had a 30 day warranty. I bought it for home use, so I only printed occasionally. It printed about 20 pages and then the mechanism locked up. Of course, that was a couple of days after the warranty expired. It was nothing but junk. I swore I would never buy anything Lexmark again -- and I haven't.
34 posted on 08/17/2011 6:09:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bookwoman
I hear you about FF5. I just upgraded to 6 about a minute ago.

It actually does feel better.

Should you upgrade on the advice of someone using it for a whole minute?

Totally your decision :-)

35 posted on 08/17/2011 6:15:40 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: ShadowAce
FF3.6.x is stable for me but lacks many features.
FF4 was really bad as it would freeze up repeatedly and took 3 times as long to launch as Chrome5 and IE9.
FF5 seemed to resolve those problems as I didn't have problems with it - but it still didn't give me anything useful I didn't already have with IE9 and C5.

I just installed FF6 and it locked up on FR ... not the best first impression but I'll give it a week and decide if it makes my primary or alternate browser (currently IE9[32bit] and FF5 (because my work apps function better on FF5 than Chrome).

36 posted on 08/17/2011 6:22:28 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: ShadowAce
Do I have to download everything all over again? All my add-ons? Personalities? Etc???

Kinda sucks, even if the improvements are actually improving things...

37 posted on 08/17/2011 6:25:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.)
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To: 9YearLurker

“The other thing is software that’s constantly ‘on’, communicating on the Internet, and taking up too many resources. My Lexmark All-In-One software is like that—never anything else from Lexmark for me!”

You might want to get a freeware program called Winpatrol. All those programs make registry changes, and this software will not allow that without your approval, and will also help you identify which process is doing it should it get installed, and allow you to easily disable it.

http://www.winpatrol.com/download.html


38 posted on 08/17/2011 6:26:57 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: GreenAccord
I watched an “It gets better” ad sponsored by Google

They ran an ad implicitly admitting that their software sucks but promising to improve it in the future?

39 posted on 08/17/2011 6:29:13 AM PDT by HerbieHoover
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Hope it fixes whatever happened on Monday that screwed up Firefox royally.

Some sort of update was installed, thinking it was for Windows & and Firefox has been upgephuqued ever since.

40 posted on 08/17/2011 6:30:24 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Obama and the Dems - The flash mob raiding the Treasury.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Huh... Good job Mozilla. Just updated my browser, 16.9Mb download via the built-in update feature, and everything still looks like it works.

Groovy...

41 posted on 08/17/2011 6:35:31 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.)
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To: HerbieHoover

“It gets better” is an ad campaign by Hollywood stars (including Woody from Toy Story) for gays teen agers with low self esteem or who are thinking about killing themselves.

It’s really gay.


42 posted on 08/17/2011 6:42:18 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: ShadowAce; expat1000; 9YearLurker
Losing extensions is a legitimate concern. It's what makes each user's version of firefox theirs--it's what make it usable for them.

Each time I upgrade with Firefox, I lose extensions, some of which I use daily here on FR and other BB's (Word count plus, Tab X, BBCode and BBCodextra are just a few). However, there are two extensions you can use to test compatibility and one also forces use if they still work:

Mozilla add-on compatibility reporter

Is it compatible?

Of course, the purpose of add-ons is to make your browsing easier. When new versions of the browser seemingly come with the speed of light leaving functioning add-ons behind, then users are going to search for another browser to use which mitigates the whole purpose of add-ons in the first place!

43 posted on 08/17/2011 6:50:35 AM PDT by CedarDave (Use the FR sidebar to track favorite keyword threads.)
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To: expat1000

Thanks for the tip. I am now running Winpatrol.


44 posted on 08/17/2011 7:02:06 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: TomGuy
Geez, we have been using the same $80 Lexmark printer for at least 10 years. Never have had any trouble with it at all. It still prints photos and pages very nicely. We would buy another one.
45 posted on 08/17/2011 7:06:19 AM PDT by Pilated
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I’m a long time firefox user. I believe it was called Phoenix back then at version.2. If they were using the same numbering convention then as they are now, we’d be at version 452 now. This is redicuous. These are point releases not major versions. Major versions should only happen with significant API changes.


46 posted on 08/17/2011 7:08:38 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: TomGuy
It was nothing but junk. I swore I would never buy anything Lexmark again -- and I haven't.

Many years ago they used to make bullet proof keyboards for IBM. You could drop them off a building, snap the keys back on, then use it. Loved the feel of those keyboards.

47 posted on 08/17/2011 7:15:10 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: ShadowAce
For Linux users, if you'd like to try out the new version without losing your old one, you might be interested in how I deal with browser upgrades. It looks complex, but is actually not as bad as it looks.
  1. Download the new version
  2. From your home directory. Back up your existing .mozilla directory:
    tar czvf mozilla.20110817.tgz .mozilla
  3. Untar the new Firefox:
    tar xjvf firefox.blah.bz
  4. Move the firefox directory you just extracted to /usr/local with a version-stamped name:
    sudo mv firefox /usr/local/firefox-6.0
  5. Change the ownership to root (this is necessary for security):
    sudo chown root:root /usr/local/firefox-6.0
  6. Create symlink for what will be your new execution directory:
    sudo ln -s /usr/local/firefox-6.0 /usr/local/firefox
  7. Edit the script that calls firefox. You'll need to change where it says firefox lives. Most likely it will be something like "/usr/lib/firefox-5" or something similar. You'll want to change it to /usr/local/firefox. Note that in the following command, the quotes are backticks, not quotation marks.
    sudo vi  `which firefox`
  8. You should be good to go,

Yeah, sounds like a lot of crap, but the benefit is, that if you've been running with this setup for a while and a new version comes out, say Firefox 7. All you'd do is extract the package to /usr/local/firefox-7, delete the symlink to /usr/local/firefox, create a new one pointing to the new directory and you're ready to go. If you find it is not to your liking, to revert back to previous version, just remove your symlink, and create new one pointing to the directory version you want. I normally keep 3 versions on my box.  Disk space is cheap, and newer versions aren't necessarily better.

Also, with the backup of your .mozilla directory, if the new version borks your profile (this has happened in the past), you can just wipe out your existing .mozilla directory and extract your saved version. I recommend you back this up at least once a week. I have a cron job that does this for me.

48 posted on 08/17/2011 7:40:25 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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redicuous

ridiculous. I really can spell after my coffee kicks in.

49 posted on 08/17/2011 7:43:21 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

You’re welcome. It is very comforting to know you will be notified before any program makes registry changes!


50 posted on 08/17/2011 7:45:47 AM PDT by expat1000
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