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Jose v. Joe
email | 09/18/2011 | unknown

Posted on 09/18/2011 3:53:16 PM PDT by oldbrowser

I just received the following email and think it is a good description of why some many illegals seem to be driving new trucks while mine is ten years old.

Very interesting

JOE vs JOSE

Interesting when you work the numbers.

You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have

two parents, two children, and live in California .

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Ready? Now pay attention...

Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year.

Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0 0 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.

Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has 9,631 ..00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.
Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Do you get it, now?

If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens...

You are part of the problem!


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1 posted on 09/18/2011 3:53:18 PM PDT by oldbrowser
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To: oldbrowser

What, are you some kind of racist??? /sarc


2 posted on 09/18/2011 4:01:15 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: oldbrowser

Quite simple to understand....but will the “right” people finally get it?

(You probably know the answer)


3 posted on 09/18/2011 4:01:41 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mr B has a new cousin on the way!)
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To: oldbrowser
Yeah, but one thing. Who are the people who are paying Joe Illegal cash under the table?? I live in an upscale white suburban community in Northern CA and I see my neighbors constantly doing this. They have a job bid by check as well as in cash. Typically they will pay in cash.
4 posted on 09/18/2011 4:21:17 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: oldbrowser
This is not entirely realistic.

I real life:

Jose Illegal has several fake ID’s and collects government handouts for each of these fake identities.

Joe Legal contributes every week to support his church and pays for his children to receive religious instruction.

Jose Illegal contributes nothing to his church but his family asks for handouts because they are poor.

Jose Illegal has many relatives who are criminals. They steal things that they give or sell cheaply to Joe Illegal.

Joe Illegal takes his children to the emergency room every time they are sick and pays for nothing. If Joe Legal’s children get sick he has to wait 3 to 4 hours to get them to see a doctor even though he pays for treatment.

Joe Illegal’s children get affirmative action admission to college and are catered to and given free tuition, free books, etc.

Joe Legals kids are refused admission to elite colleges and he must pay full, tuition fees etc for his children.

5 posted on 09/18/2011 4:24:11 PM PDT by detective
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To: oldbrowser

You’ve missed something. Jose either uses an ITIN # or a bogus, maybe stolen SS# and gets $6-8K EITC and child tax credits.


6 posted on 09/18/2011 4:26:51 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Brad's Gramma
Quite simple to understand....but will the “right” people finally get it?

I do believe the voters are starting to put two and two together.

7 posted on 09/18/2011 4:40:46 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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To: ExtremeUnction
I do believe the worm is turning.
8 posted on 09/18/2011 4:43:12 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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To: oldbrowser

yes, but none of the republican presidential
candidates do. i bet romney and perry
are both amnesty, affirmative action guys.
why do the latinos deserve special
consideration? were they brought here as slaves?


9 posted on 09/18/2011 4:46:02 PM PDT by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: detective

Don’t forget that Jose may live with two or three other families in the same house, all getting government assistance.


10 posted on 09/18/2011 4:47:21 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: detective
Jose Illegal has several fake ID’s and collects government handouts for each of these fake identities.

I think you have hit on the common thread between illegals and "progressives" and the difference to patriotic Americans.

An American patriot sees this as our country which we are proud to support.

illegals and "progressives" see this as an evil country and strive to take from it as much as it is foolishly willing to give to them.

11 posted on 09/18/2011 4:48:33 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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To: umgud
You're right and there are probably a number of other angles that I am not familiar with.
12 posted on 09/18/2011 4:51:00 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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To: oldbrowser
Interesting observation from the high-end car wash I went to in Sacramento this morning.

Of the 20 or so working there, I could count only 5 obvious Mexicans...I'm sure some portion of them illegal.

However, last year it was all Mexicans except for the couple of guys handling money and taking orders.

It was what appeared to be otherwise middle-class white folks working at the car wash.

Completely blew me away...and scared me just a little bit. But for the grace of God, there go I.

13 posted on 09/18/2011 4:55:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: gussiefinknottle
The special consideration is because there is such a huge number of illegal immigrants involved

There is eventually going to have to be some sort of weeding out process. But before we begin to decide how to do all of that we have to seal the border and enforce the immigration laws.

14 posted on 09/18/2011 4:59:25 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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To: Mariner
It was what appeared to be otherwise middle-class white folks working at the car wash.

Once they get signed up for all of the government bennies, they are better off not working just like the professional welfare class.
It is only the people that value their self respect who would rather earn their own way.

15 posted on 09/18/2011 5:10:23 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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To: oldbrowser

I would suggest that you use “Jose Legal” and “Jose Illegal”. I know many “Jose(s)” who are “legal”. You are comparing two foreigners against each other. just sayin...


16 posted on 09/18/2011 5:28:26 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: gussiefinknottle

That would be a sucker bet. Both Perry and Romney have a documented history of saying one thing and doing another on illegals.


17 posted on 09/18/2011 5:48:01 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: gussiefinknottle

(Except at election time)


18 posted on 09/18/2011 5:48:52 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: Ingtar
Both Perry and Romney have a documented history of saying one thing and doing another on illegals.

On the contrary, Rick Perry is openly and strongly pro-illegal immigration. He defends taxpayer subsidies of illegals as "the American Dream."

19 posted on 09/18/2011 5:52:40 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: The Bronze Titan
I think the example is meant to compare American citizens to illegal immigrants.
I received this as an email and that is how I understood it.
20 posted on 09/18/2011 6:11:42 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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