The Attack on Accidental Americans

Whiskey and Gunpowder ^ | Sept. 21, 2011 | Wendy McElroy

[danielmryan]

Did she get a PhD?

I thought she had one. If not, my bad.

[wintertime]

AND make it that much harder to do business with America is a nightmare come to life.
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So?....Will this increase unemployment or decrease unemployment here at home? Count on the fascist Obama to make the wrong decision for the little guy.

Not only will less business be done with overseas enterprises but visitors to the U.S. will decrease and that means fewer jobs in many areas of the economy.

[FromTheSidelines]

I seem to remember that the US does not allow dual citizenship. That is, to be an American citizen you must be a citizen of the US ONLY. Was I wrong?

Yes and no... The US doesn't recognize any other citizenship for you, but does not prohibit you from gaining other citizenship, either. Getting a second citizenship does not nullify your US citizenship, and most other countries automatically consider your gaining of their citizenship to be an implicit renouncement of US citizenship.

But the US likes to hold on to its people, so you need to pay a bunch of money and spend a few years to actually renounce your citizenship formally.

[cuban leaf]

—Was I wrong?
Yes.—

I knew this day would come. I had no idea how bad it feels to be wrong. No wonder people try to avoid it. ;->

[Josephat]

Words fail me. The libs go soft when they should be firm, and they lash out when it’s counterproductive. Do they even know what they’re doing?

Yes, they know full well what they are doing and they celebrate the destruction of America.

[FromTheSidelines]

Absolutely! Only one other nation taxes based upon citizenship - and that’s the strongarm dictatorship of Eritrea. ALL other nations tax based upon where you earn the money, not where you’re a nominal citizen.

Note that the US also extends this claim to legal residents; if you are a citizen of another nation, but have a green card, you still have to pay US income taxes on monies earned overseas, even if you’re overseas for the entire year.

[cuban leaf]

I confess that I am puzzled as to how the US government even knows about a person born of US parents in another country that has lived there into adulthood. There is no SSN so they should not exist, as far as the US gov is concerned. At least, that is how I would have assumed it worked if it happened to me.

[thackney]

I knew this day would come. I had no idea how bad it feels to be wrong.

Either you have never been married, or you are female.

Cheers! ;-)

[tumblindice]

“she went to the nearest U.S. embassy to renounce her citizenship”

Hey, don’ let the door hit you in the *** as you leave.
Hoser.

[cuban leaf]

—Either you have never been married, or you are female.—

Good one! Seriously!

Actually, I just forgot the sarcasm tag. 8-D

[FromTheSidelines]

I don’t know, either - however, I think it shows the tenacity of the IRS in tracking down anyone they think might be “shirking their responsibility”. The US Government is putting a tremendous amount of resources in identifying citizens and legal residents living abroad all in the name of tax enforcement.

If only they put that same effort into controlling illegal immigration...

[teenyelliott]

Well you are correct that the avalanche that is our government has certainly gained a lot of momentum in the last ten to twenty years, but the spark of this bloated pig began with the 16th amendment in 1913, then really gained momentum with FDR and his move to go off the gold standard, the New Deal, and the many other socialist programs he started and a battered electorate was more than willing to accept.

Hoover spent massive amounts of money, and it did nothing to stop the onset of the depression. Why the idiots in DC and the public continue to believe that increased theft in the form of "taxes" and increased spending will improve our current lot is beyond me.

We were given a Republic, and we failed to keep it.

[cuban leaf]

—If only they put that same effort into controlling illegal immigration...—

No money in it.

[Lazamataz]

The IRS is making a worldwide push to squeeze money from Americans living abroad and from anyone who holds dual citizenship, whether they know it or not. It doesn’t matter if the “duals” want U.S. status, have never set foot on U.S. soil or never conducted business with an American. It doesn’t matter if those targeted owe a single cent to the IRS. Unlike almost every other nation in the world, the United States requires citizens living abroad to file tax forms on the money they do not owe as well as to report foreign bank accounts or holdings such as stocks or RSSPs. The possible penalty for not reporting is $10,000 per “disclosed asset” per year.

You know, this would be my response if I was not ever intending on going to America, etcetera.

I would mail them this picture with their requested response:

[Lazamataz]

She lived in Canada all her life. She never knew she was considered American whatsoever. I don’t fault her.

[heiss]

US and North Korea are the only countries who tax on worldwide basis.

Time to end it. It is morally wrong and unethical. If you earn money in (say) Canada, and pay local taxes, why the heck you should pay anything to Uncle Sam? No country works this way.

Taxes are evil.

[RC51]

That is a great idea! Then the illegal Mexican’s can purchase the foreclosed US citizenship. If the person being foreclosed on doesn’t hold dual citizenship then they get a letter in the mail like:

“Dear John Doe, We regret to inform you that due to your delinquent taxes owed, The US Dept of Revenue has foreclosed on your US Citizenship. The purchaser was Jose Quervo from Mexico City, Mexico. We have contacted the Mexican embassy on your behalf and completed the citizenship transfer. Your new Mexican passport is available at the nearest Mexican Embassy.

Have a good day, or hasta la vista
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[LevinFan]

I question the constitutionality of them going after her. She was born in another country and has never set foot in the USA. What gives the us a claim on her, other than the IRS wants her money? How does this look to the rest of the world?

[Cheburashka]

Have a drink. You'll feel better.

[familyop]

There's a whole lot of BS going around here.

"Hence the fact that some non-U.S. asset managers and banking groups are debating whether they could simply ignore FATCA by creating subsidiaries that never touch U.S. assets at all. ‘This is complete madness for the U.S. — America needs global investors to buy its bonds,’ fumes one bank manager. ‘But not holding U.S. assets might turn out to be the easiest thing for us to do.’"

But they won't follow through on that promise, because they're involved in their currency wars against us. And anyone with a clue in our USA will prepare for globalism to collapse after its citizen of the world tantrum.

As for citizens of the world being immune to laws and taxes, well, lah tee dah. Such laws and taxes are for us peasants. Pass the popcorn. Or maybe I'll take their side for the sake of speeding the default/cleansing process. It's going to take out all of the trash.