Posted on 10/20/2011 8:45:49 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
(CBS News) Apple CEO Steve Jobs refused to allow surgeons to perform what could have been life-saving surgery on his pancreatic cancer, says his biographer Walter Isaacson...
"I've asked [Jobs why he didn't get an operation then] and he said, 'I didn't want my body to be opened...I didn't want to be violated in that way,'" Isaacson recalls. So he waited nine months, while his wife and others urged him to do it, before getting the operation, reveals Isaacson. Asked by Kroft how such an intelligent man could make such a seemingly stupid decision, Isaacson replies, "I think that he kind of felt that if you ignore something, if you don't want something to exist, you can have magical thinking...we talked about this a lot," he tells Kroft. "He wanted to talk about it, how he regretted it....I think he felt he should have been operated on sooner."
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
And there’s always outlaw woman who doesn’t always quite get it and should just ride off on her high horsey when she’s confused. :)
Was he the whacko marxist-socialist CEO she describes? Let's look at his views on education. He blamed the unions for destroying it, for high costs, for robbing it of market competition, he believed in vouchers, in merit based promotion, in teachers not technology. He believed in equality of opportunity, not outcome.
Here's a 1995 in depth interview where you'll see those views: Smithsonian Oral History Interview with Steve Jobs
It seems to me he could best be described as an old line Democrat, one who believed in markets, in opportunity, a kind of Democrat which is effectively extinct today.
Exactly.
Yeah, it is a nasty cancer. The article claimes Jobs regreted his decision to stick his head in the sand for nine months after they found it. My mom had to have whipple surgery. She lived for fifteen years.
Ahhh but my dear, there seems to be a few others on this lame thread that agree; it was Steve Jobs’ decision.
I heard him talk on a number of occasions and he was a socialist. There are socialist Republicans, too. That is our major problem right now. But Jobs was mainly a politically correct democrat liberal.
I don’t have any hatred towards the man. I just find it amazing that someone that successful would be buying into the magical thinking of socialism and political correctness.
I can tell this really shook ya! You appleites!
Steve Jobs had his trajectory as well. May he RIP and may this thread as well.
I don’t think it has to do with accepting reality.
He wouldn’t have survived, anyway. And facing cancer and immortality his way was his right. Ultimately, it was the most private and personal decision he ever made. And even if we don’t agree with it, we must admit that it was his call and no one else’s.
No one has the right to force their medical opinion upon the ultimately life-or -death decisions of a person who has a cancer that is this deadly. It’s impossible to force someone into treatment.
Thank God!
He was a socialist that met with Obama and told him to his face that he would be a one term president. He was furious with Obama.
He told the president that he was ruining business in this country and that it would take a near-miracle to save our educational system, only after turning to a merit based system where teacher’s unions’ power would fall by the way-side.
It was a highly uncomfortable meeting for the president.
I commend Jobs for saying those things to Obama. I don’t think Jobs was frightened of anyone.
Stoopid hypothetical story and it could have gone either way.
Pancreatic Cancer is a terribly vicious disease and does what it wants even if you attempt to excise it.
When I was in medical school some 30 years ago once you diagnosed pancreatic cancer the patient had three months to live on average. I cannot believe that surgery might have prolonged his life more than a few months...vut then again I might be wrong. With Obamacare no one will be getting that surgery.
I’ve forgotten the type of pancreatic CA that Jobs had, but IIRC, it was one of the less aggressive types. And I didn’t know he was diagnosed in 2004. 7 years is a LONG time to live with pancreatic cancer. Whipple procedures used to have a 25% mortality from the surgery alone. Now it’s around 2%.
Then I would stand corrected. Surgery may indeed have prolonged his life.
Not much said about Cain’s liver mets. That too was an ominous sign just a few years ago, and he’s five years now tumor free. I think he had surgery and chemotherapy combo which was smart.
On the other hand, sometimes you do surgery on these cases and they go down hill quite fast....Hard to say...
No choice under ObamaCAre. Jobs would have died years ago...
My mother had the Whipple procedure done nine years ago. The surgery took 13 hours to perform. This was done in Pittsburgh, PA. She is in the less of 1% survivor’s. Over 90% of people diagnosed with pancreatic cancer will not see the next year. Doctor’s describe my mother as a miracle.
I think that people like Steve Jobs would still get any surgery they want. It's just us "common" people who will be put on indefinite wait lists...then told when we get to the head of the line that we waited too long and surgery will be pointless.
Death by Buddhism?
“pancreatic cancer is a death sentence
Yes and even Steve Jobs could not come up with the ipancreas. Life is also a death sentence and not to many people deal with that straight up and all perfect when they come to realize that means none of us get out of here alive.”
All truth. Everyone - make sure you have a personal relationship with The Son Of God, Jesus Christ, who gave his life to pay for your sins, so that you won’t end up in Hell.
Don’t wait until you die, because that decision will have already been made by then. You will be judged by what you did with his Son while you were alive on this earth - whether you received Him, opposed Him or ignored Him.
There is no sin so great He won’t forgive it, and there is no person good enough to enter the Kingdom Of Heaven.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.