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Why Some Kids Get it and Others Don't
High School Teacher in Texas | 11/2/11 | unknown

Posted on 11/02/2011 4:51:12 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz

Hello Career Preparation:

We are beginning the next unit. The students will research positive interpersonal skills, goal setting, and effective leadership skills. Tomorrow the students will be in the computer lab taking a shortened version of the Meyer Briggs personality test. At the conclusion, they will be given a list of careers that support their responses. Next week we will begin the unit on analyzing health and wellness practices that influence job performance.

The next DECA meeting is Nov. 10. Let me know if you have any questions.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education
KEYWORDS: jobs; protests
This is why some kids go to college for Engineering, Medicine, Law, Business.

Then again, the ones who think cutting this class and hanging out with their angst strew buddies land them in OWS, wondering why their French Lit degree didn't get them a job.

1 posted on 11/02/2011 4:51:13 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: EQAndyBuzz

When you have a society tht has a large percentage of parasites openly being advertised to by your own Federal Government to ‘ be sure to sign up for Food Stamps, WIC, Earned Income Credit, Section 8 Housing, Food Bank supplies, Grants of every stripe & size for “education”’, the result is a society where those who live 3-4-5-6 generations on such handouts suck the incentive to really work out of those who truly have a work ethic.

When I was a kid, charity came from the churches & it was a rather quiet affair.

Today, a expotentially growing part of each community is standing there & DEMANDING handouts from the legal efforts of others.

When a person who is the ‘baby Daddy’ of a number of offspring barely manages to hold a part time job due to his personal choices of companions, chemical dependency & work attendance gets more money back in EARNED INCOME CREDIT than he ‘earned’ in a tax year, it certainly doesn’t incentivise those who are walking a straighter line in their lives.

When sloth is rewarded, you get more sloth.

When crime is NOT punished, you get more crime.

When crime becomes beneficial, you get even more crime.


2 posted on 11/02/2011 5:12:32 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Myers-Briggs” Test


3 posted on 11/02/2011 5:14:21 AM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: ridesthemiles

When crime becomes beneficial, you get even more crime.

...or in contrast a statement from the “olden days”.

Crime doesn’t pay. Well apparently that is old news.


4 posted on 11/02/2011 5:22:20 AM PDT by wita
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Crime doesn’t pay.

In Michael Crichton's book, The Great Train Robbery, he discussed how law-enforcement officials of Victorian England thought that increases in the standard of living would result in a reduction - if not extermination - of crime.

They were wrong. A wealthier "public" simply brought about smarter, wealthier criminals.

Crime will always pay.

5 posted on 11/02/2011 5:59:33 AM PDT by LoveUSA (You don't notice the night light until it gets dark.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

How about we teach them things they should know instead of trying to analyze them?

Attempting to tell them what career to get into is statist and wrong.


6 posted on 11/02/2011 6:13:30 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Tomorrow the students will be in the computer lab taking a shortened version of the Meyer Briggs personality test. At the conclusion, they will be given a list of careers that support their responses.

These tests always told me I should be an architect, which would have likely been a bad career choice, since my ability to be creative on such things is about the same as my ability to dance.

I've always wondered if for some kids, answers like "lazy welfare bum" or "Assistant Manager for Burger Franchise" ever comes up.

7 posted on 11/02/2011 6:16:12 AM PDT by RockinRight (In under 13 months, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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I had NO IDEA as a kid what I wanted to do. I don’t think it’s statist to help someone figure it out...although, as I said before, I’d have become an architect if I listened to those tests.


8 posted on 11/02/2011 6:25:09 AM PDT by RockinRight (In under 13 months, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Tomorrow the students will be in the computer lab taking a shortened version of the Meyer Briggs personality test. At the conclusion, they will be given a list of careers that support their responses.

These tests always told me I should be an architect, which would have likely been a bad career choice, since my ability to be creative on such things is about the same as my ability to dance.

I've always wondered if for some kids, answers like "lazy welfare bum" or "Assistant Manager for Burger Franchise" ever comes up.

9 posted on 11/02/2011 6:25:31 AM PDT by RockinRight (In under 13 months, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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I don’t trust publik skoolz or government to be involved with things like kids. :p


10 posted on 11/02/2011 6:31:44 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I gave those thests years go and wrote them off as hogwash. They were rarely reliable. I take them myself about once a month and not once did they come up with the same career. Both your groups of students are wasting their time, however one group is having more fun.


11 posted on 11/02/2011 6:44:54 AM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Tomorrow the students will be in the computer lab taking a shortened version of the Meyer Briggs personality test. At the conclusion, they will be given a list of careers that support their responses.

IIRC, Meyers-Briggs is more of a personality test, as opposed to an aptitude test. Linking personality with a profession is part of the decision-making that goes into a career choice, but not everything.

I suppose this is better than nothing. I imagine that most kids have no idea "what they want to be when they grow up," and to make them decide in high school--by way of making them choose a college and a degree program--can be almost cruel.

12 posted on 11/02/2011 6:48:47 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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Tomorrow the students will be in the computer lab taking a shortened version of the Meyer Briggs personality test.

I actually know a person who "studied" for this test. He took it several times on line to see how he needed to answer to fit a certain profile for a supervisory position.

It helped. Unfortunately for the rest of us, we now had a smug, self-aggrandizing, couldn't-do-the-real-job-at-hand-if-his-life-depended-on-it, obsequeous jack-wagon as a supervisor. But boy, he did well on that old personality test.

13 posted on 11/02/2011 6:55:25 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: bgill

What I like about this is even though Meyers Brigg is to a 16 year old what a fish is to a bicycle, the fact that the class is doing something and helping the kids with thinking about a career is better than nothing.

My kid is working, making a decent living for a 16 year old, is learning about leadership (maybe he can lead a tea party rally 10 years from now) and helping provide him with the skills to be productive in the workplace.


14 posted on 11/02/2011 8:52:38 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Group discussion is fine. However, if a kid were to believe a totally wrong test result, that’s not so fine.


15 posted on 11/02/2011 10:05:13 AM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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Ok, a positive note on the tests. When I quit that job, I took the old version of the kit with me. The test itself made a nice bonfire and it’s trunk was painted red and made a great toy box.


16 posted on 11/02/2011 10:09:24 AM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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I get it and think the test is amusing. Might explain why so many kids are French Literature Majors.

“You have absolutely no marketable skill whatsoever. But from the test results, you have a bright future as a OWS protester and useful idiot.”


17 posted on 11/02/2011 10:17:53 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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