Posted on 11/17/2011 11:27:00 AM PST by Liberty1970
Two European Web Sites Confirmed By Rossi as Legitimate Partners November 17, 2011 For a number of weeks now the website www.ecat.com has been posting videos filmed at the October 6th demonstration on Bologna, but the site’s relationship with Andrea Rossi has not been clear. Yesterday the site was updated significantly, and now appears to be a full service site dealing with E-Cat technology stating that it is “In Association with Andrea Rossi”.
The site includes sections on science, business, patents and products, and on the front page is a form which can be used by potential customers to get on a “non-binding” waiting list to purchase E-Cat products from Rossi’s Leonardo Corporation.
Curious to find out whether the site’s claims of association with Rossi were legitimate, I posted a question on the Journal of Nuclear Physics site about it. Rossi replied, “Yes, it is the website of our North Europe commercial Branch.”
There is a lot of information about E-Cat technology on the site, and a whole section which discusses the science of exothermic nuclear reactions which speculates on possible theories that could explain the E-Cat’s nuclear reaction. It appears this section is not the work of Rossi, but there is no author listed.
With Rossi mentioning that this site is from North Europe, I wonder if there is any connection between it and HydroFusion.com which is an organization that is apparently involved in Rossi’s technology which according to the site is based in the UK and Sweden.
Another organization has been identified by Rossi has an authorized seller of E-Cat products: TransAltech AG as a German language site offering E-Cats for sale. Andrea Rossi commented in response to a question about them, “Yes, they can sell in Switzerland our product.”
While new pieces of the E-Cat commercialization puzzle are emerging, it may be some time before any orders placed for E-Cat plants can be filled. When asked yesterday if any new reactors had been delivered, Rossi answered, “No, the plants are still in construction.”
Frank Acland
>> “Folks are free to ignore these threads, there is no compulsion to post on any of them” <<
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Unless you’re a paid disinformer, then no post, no pay.
Unless you’re a paid disinformer, then no post, no pay.Some of us just do it for the fun of watching the fanboy's heads explode.
Seriously, there is the pleasure of solving a puzzle (whether the E-Cat is real or a fraud), and providing the other side of the story, the side that the fanboys won't mention.
Thanks for the detailed info, I appreciate it. I'm not sure how getting a degree from Kensington counts as a 'fake diploma'. Instead I would say it was a real diploma from an unaccredited institution that probably doesn't prove anything in terms of real competence.
Get your head out of the raw milk, it blurs your vision.
Instead I would say it was a real diploma from an unaccredited institution that probably doesn't prove anything in terms of real competence.It's not about competence, it's about integrity.
Almost every aspect of the E-Cat depends upon Rossi being honest. There have been a hundred different ways Rossi could have faked the tests (did all the water really turn to steam; if not, there's no excess energy), and lied about the business aspects (who is his "secret" company?).
If Rossi isn't totally trustworthy, then the whole E-Cat story falls apart (as I think it will).
I wonder why the letter on ecat.com says his degree was awarded in 1975 while Rossi himself says it was awarded in 1973.
According to Wikipedia, "Dottore" just indicates a university degree in Italy, awarded after as little as three years of study. A PhD is a "Dottore di Ricerca", literally "Doctor of Research".
I should also mention that E-Cat's newly opened London office is apparently a virtual one, i.e., a letter drop.
http://www.transaltec.ch/facma/design.php?design=2
And here's the Google translate version:
Energy extraction using EBM technologyThe top half is about their "magnetic motor" that once spun up is supposed to run forever, generating excess electricity. This is the very definition of a "perpetual motion" device, and certainly should make one question the legitimacy of this company.On the basis of Prof. L.I. Szabo patented magnet technology "Energy by Motion" offered from 2007 Kraftwerke, designed for decentral Complete energy supply (warmth current). Coldness of Cooling and Climatization purposes can generates from part of heat means ad respectively Absportions refrigerating plants.
Unlike traditional cogeneration plants, need the conven-tional fuels and release only about 1 / 3 in the form of electrical energy, power plants do not need EBM external supplies. Client requires minimal Start energy and generate during operation over 2/3 her performance in electrical form. Decentralized unused electricity or heat can be fed into a current or a district heating network.
Due to physical conditions, such systems are only economically viable in the MW range. Since no classical fuel requires arise through an Operating period of eg 40 years, substantial savings and profits for the plant operator.
Currently can installations be ordered Power range 3, 10 and 150MW. The Amount 16-18 months from your order, whereby 50% financing Prof. Szabos financial society EEL can deploy. The pure plant costs - without plot and Kraftwerk buildings - calculate itself for specified performance sizes upon 8, 20 and 245 Mio USD.
When 3MW-Kraftwerk lies payback time equity (50% the Total costs) at 2 years. The Size or weight of entire magnetic material (dynamo sheet) whose charges 50% constitute the final price plant leaves over a parameterized formula easily calculate.Further Contacts, license inquiries and product orders mediated via TransAltec AG.
Energy production from nickel-hydrogen reaction
On the basis of the developed by engineer Andrea Rossi and Prof. Sergio Focardi method for heat recovery from a low-energy nuclear reaction from November 2011 to 1 MW heating plants compact in size containers are available (2.5 mx 2.5 mx 7m). Such heat panels are suitable for example for local heating of a residential neighborhood or a small Industriekomplexex. By complementing those installations with steam turbines and generators heat can - or part thereof - also for electricity utilized be with one implementation efficiency of about 30%. The ratio of heat and electricity is thus like classic CHP about 3:1. Years of research work in the field of low-energy nuclear reactions have shown that nickel nuclei at moderate temperatures in copper by proton nuclei converted to. To start the process of the reactor with nickel powder and a secret catalyst is filled with hydrogen under pressure is charged and an outer heat-up heats. After the onset of the nuclear reaction is heat, which has a temperature of about 400 to 500 degrees, to a heat exchanger circuit as hot steam available. Technological, safety and operational reasons, a 1-MW plant from a total of 300 small reactors to 4 kW each is built (with redundancy). It incur no exhaust or harmful rays. Accurate theory effect way the E-Cat reactors studied by from University Bologna in a biennial research Program 2011 2013. The calculation of the energy costs of such low-energy processes is proving to be extremely attractive. The input materials are inexpensive and available in large quantities. An exchange of nickel powder, which is consumed only in small quantities, is required every six months. It is 90% recyclable. In the current system costs are expected at 2000 € / kW.
Further Contacts, license inquiries and product orders mediated via TransAltec AG.
Sorry, but that does not in any way support you absurd extrapolations on E-Cat.
I wonder why the letter on ecat.com says his degree was awarded in 1975 while Rossi himself says it was awarded in 1973.That's a nit. I once sent out resumes with a typo in the date for one job that I didn't notice until I was going over my work history with a potential employer. It looked like I had been unemployed for a year, which wasn't true.
I have no knowledge about this “motor,” but not everything that burns “forever” is a perpetual motion machine.
In some cases the motion is provided by the Earth’s constant vibrations and wobble, and a large coil, a couple of diodes, a sealed battery, and a small light bulb can continue indefinitely, riding those small currents generated as the coil cuts the Earth’s magnetic field.
I have no knowledge about this “motor,” but not everything that burns “forever” is a perpetual motion machine.None of the things you mention run "forever". Just a very long time.In some cases the motion is provided by the Earth’s constant vibrations and wobble, and a large coil, a couple of diodes, a sealed battery, and a small light bulb can continue indefinitely, riding those small currents generated as the coil cuts the Earth’s magnetic field.
But the significant part is that Rossi's agent has a device that, according to their claims, can be spun up to a specified speed, and will then continue to spin at that speed for a long time (months or years) while producing Megawatts of electricity for that whole time.
That clearly falls in the "perpetual motion" category, and is clearly impossible.
Rossi's claims, by contrast, are within the realm of the possible. The only problem with them is that Rossi refuses to allow anyone to independently verify what he has. We are supposed to just trust that Rossi is being truthful.
As soon as an competent and independent organization (a university, NASA, G.E., etc.) publicly states that they have tested an E-Cat and have determined that it does produces excess energy, I will accept it.
But, after eleven months, eight or nine dog & pony shows, and a "secret" company that supposedly bought the thing, we still don't have any independent confirmation that the E-Cat does anything at all.
Not impossible, and there are several hanging in etageries with their little lights burning.
Its no more impossible than the heat of volcanoes that comes from friction of the plates motion. The Earth is rich with energy generated by motion. Nikola Tesla had lots of plans to tap those forces; was he an idiot?
Not everything you don’t understand is wrong.
So stars follow one set of physical laws, but the ecat follows a different set of physical laws?
Are you jumping too?
Considering that nobody here has any grasp on what E-Cat is, your quip is almost as stupid as toad’s.
I'm not extrapolating anything. Just mentioning that fusion reactions that create elements above iron are endothermic.
If you take that info and extrapolate that Rossi is a fraud, you're probably in the right neighborhood.
Were you able to find it? Sounds very familiar.
“Sorry, but that does not in any way support you absurd extrapolations on E-Cat.
Yes, it does. It just went over your head.
Just another Rossi/Kevmo blog post faking it as news.
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