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Man catches 881-pound tuna, seized by feds
Yahoo ^ | 11-23-2011 | Eric Pfeiffer

Posted on 11/23/2011 8:04:04 AM PST by Cowman

A Massachusetts fisherman pulled in an 881-pound tuna this week only to have the federal authorities take it away. It sounds like a libertarian twist on the classic novella by Ernest Hemingway, The Old Man and the Sea, but for Carlos Rafael, the saga is completely true. Rafael and his crew were using nets to catch bottom-dwellers when they inadvertently snagged the giant tuna. However, federal fishery enforcement agents took control of the behemoth when the boat returned to port. The reason for the seizure was procedural: While Rafael had the appropriate permits, fishermen are only allowed to catch tuna with a rod and reel. It would seem that unlike the fictional New England shark hunters in Jaws, Rafael didn't need a bigger boat, just a better permit. In an interview with the Standard-Times of New Bedford, Rafael disputes the claims from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) enforcement division that the humungous tuna was trawled from the bottom of the Atlantic. "They didn't catch that fish on the bottom," he said. "They probably got it in the mid-water when they were setting out and it just got corralled in the net. That only happens once in a blue moon." And while Rafael is denied the mother of all fish stories, the federal impoundment of his catch also means he's probably losing out on a giant payday. A 754-pound tuna recently sold for nearly $396,000. NOAA regulators do not share any of the proceeds from the fish's eventual sale with a fisherman found in violation of federal rules. "They said it had to be caught with rod and reel," a frustrated Rafael said. "We didn't try to hide anything. We did everything by the book. Nobody ever told me we couldn't catch it with a net."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: bigfish; theft; tuna
Does anybody else think the only reason they took this guy's fish is they wanted the whole price and not just the large portion of it that would be taxed from this poor guy?

How about we get these NOAA and fish and wildlife guys a fishing job? I think they would qualify to be bait.

1 posted on 11/23/2011 8:04:08 AM PST by Cowman
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To: Cowman
Posted yesterday
2 posted on 11/23/2011 8:06:22 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Cowman

It is stories such as these that metasticize hatred of government throughout our society.


3 posted on 11/23/2011 8:07:29 AM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: alancarp
Sorry, I did a search but nothing came up
4 posted on 11/23/2011 8:10:10 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Grunthor

The government is against Big Tuna


5 posted on 11/23/2011 8:10:50 AM PST by grandpa jones
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To: grandpa jones
The sad part is that there is probably no way that any part of this tuna will see its way into anyone's belly.

I'd be willing to bet it will be either thrown back in the sea or discarded altogether. However, the cynic in me says that someone, somewhere in the Gubmint chain of command will profit from its sale.

6 posted on 11/23/2011 8:15:56 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: Cowman

HOW DARE YOU NOT KNOW EVERY SINGLE REGULATION IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PAGES ON THE BOOKS!!!

IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE


7 posted on 11/23/2011 8:16:17 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Grunthor
"They said it had to be caught with rod and reel," a frustrated Rafael said. "We didn't try to hide anything. We did everything by the book. Nobody ever told me we couldn't catch it with a net."

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. He was in violation of the law, however unintended. Unless the law states that unintended catches have to be turned over to authorities, I would have carved off enough for a couple of good meals for the crew and tossed the rest back into the sea.

8 posted on 11/23/2011 8:17:36 AM PST by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Pecos

Sorry, Charlie.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 8:21:51 AM PST by twoputt
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To: Pecos
"I would have carved off enough for a couple of good meals for the crew and tossed the rest back into the sea."

I'd have just kept a spare rod and reel on the boat in case the feds came snooping around.

10 posted on 11/23/2011 8:25:45 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Cowman

Tuna steaks being served at the White Hut tonight!


11 posted on 11/23/2011 8:30:58 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Cowman

This Nov. 12, 2011 photo released by NOAA and provided by Stephanie Rafael shows fishing boat owner Carlos Rafael in New Bedford, Mass., with an 881-pound tuna.

12 posted on 11/23/2011 8:36:40 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Typically these large Bluefin tuna will be sold before the boat reaches the dock. On arrival to land they are loaded onto a truck and driven immediatley to Logan or JFK where they are on the next plane to Tokyo. This is sushi tuna.

This fish would have made him more in one day than he would the rest of the year. It is really a shame. I wonder what happened to this fish.


13 posted on 11/23/2011 8:47:29 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Cowman
federal fishery enforcement agents took control of the behemoth when the boat returned to port.

I don't know much about this--are there federal fishery enforcement agents at every port? How did they know he had a big fish? Why were they expecting him?

14 posted on 11/23/2011 9:10:10 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Go, Herman!)
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To: Cowman

Another example of our government gone amuck. Where does it end? When is enough, enough? Why are they wasting time and money on this BS?


15 posted on 11/23/2011 9:16:00 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: JoeProBono

*sniff sniff* Charlie?????

LOL I doubt this had anything to do with PETA, (probably all about money and dumb regulations) but if you want a good laugh check out this website.

http://features.peta.org/PETASeaKittens/

Yes, that’s right. Sea. Kittens.

Remember, fishing hurts. /sarc


16 posted on 11/23/2011 9:16:05 AM PST by Conservaliberty (If Paul and Palin were running mates, would their foreign policies be like matter and anti-matter?)
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To: proud American in Canada

We have way too many government enforcers bothering ordinary citizens whilst the government allows illegals and terrorists easy access to our nation.

The problem didn’t start with obama but it has gotten worse.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 9:19:10 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Cowman

$400,000 for one fish. Man. Those gold mining guys on tv better sell all their mining gear and start fishing for tuna. They could call the new show “WEALTHIEST CATCH”.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 9:27:45 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: hoosierham
We have way too many government enforcers bothering ordinary citizens whilst the government allows illegals and terrorists easy access to our nation.

That's for sure. We have the same problem here. Ontario busybodies are making it very difficult for farmers to sell fresh eggs or milk. If I remember right, there was also some story about authorities clamping down on church bake sales--the food wasn't inspected, or some such nonsense.

19 posted on 11/23/2011 9:51:34 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Go, Herman!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Just in case you decided to fish for tuna, of course.


20 posted on 11/28/2011 7:37:45 AM PST by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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