Posted on 11/25/2011 9:32:12 AM PST by Cardhu
Today is the International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women. The phrase "violence against women" calls for comment. It names the victims but not the perpetrators. The fact that men are mainly responsible for violent and health-harming behaviours, not only against women and children but also against each other, is so taken for granted that it slips beneath the radar of commentators and policymakers.
Take the riots of August this year. As the suspects were charged, considerable detail was published by the Ministry of Justice. The press focused on the age, ethnicity, neighbourhood and employment status of offenders. Yet by far the most dramatic divergence the statistics revealed was gender: 92% of the first 466 defendants were male. Something yet more significant went unremarked: of the 124 individuals charged with offences involving violence, all were male.
When information on a further 1,715 people charged with rioting offences was issued by the MoJ a month later, the focus was on the fact that 73% of the defendants had a previous caution or conviction. Few noted that the MoJ had chosen to focus only on male rioters; females were absent from these "average" recidivists. What we saw was a palpable concern with the youth, class and race of rioters but a lack of analysis of the key fact the statistics illustrate: the culpability, and cost, of masculinity. As so often, masculine antisocial behaviour was just the wallpaper.
In 1959 the social scientist and policy activist Barbara Wootton looked at the crime statistics and remarked that "if men behaved like women, the courts would be idle and the prisons empty". Half a century later the British Crime Survey and police crime figures bear her out. In 2009-10, men were perpetrators in 91% of all violent incidents in England and Wales.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
The failure of masculinity costs much more.
Instead of defining masculinity as impulse control over strong emotions and refocus of energy into creativity; instead of encouraging the development of physical strength and controlling it to show tenderness and gentleness; instead of harnessing the natural urge to protect our mate and family into making a living to provide for them, we could adopt the Talliban way. Men could coverup and lockup the “cause” of their impulses trying to externally control them, instead of themselves.
Man-haters such as these will not be happy until all men and boys have had their genitals chopped off. So sick of the war agains masculinity.
Repeat that, HALF of domestic violence is by women.
But men get hauled off in a heartbeat without any question, the cops are obligated to do it.
Men having any spine or principles at all are branded as brutes and that folks is one of the many reasons we had a fag for president.
We have played to a feminist agenda and political correctness instead of supporting responsibility, integrity and principle. Some of it began with going light on criminals and then that escalated to the protection society and nanny state we have now.
Do you have some research links about half the dv stats? I cannot find any.
http://www.metafilter.com/82659/Domestic-Violence-Women-Abusers-On-The-Rise
http://www.oregoncounseling.org/Handouts/DomesticViolenceMen.htm
The only worthwhile link is the last one. Lots of citations. Some seem sto be same sex couples but overall men and women dv seems to be running at 50%
You're right about women "causing" violence from others. I'll re-phrase it as "encouraged" or "provided an incentive".
Example: wife's friend has an adult daughter. Daughter and her boyfriend were at a party at neighbor's place. Boyfriend decides he's tired (and had enough beers) and goes back to their apartment to sleep -- she sticks around. She gets into an argument with one of the guys there, gets physical, he slaps her. She goes back to the apartment, wakes boyfriend, screaming at him that so-and-so had attacked her. He goes back to the party, drunk and half awake, gets into fight with the other guy, pulls knife, cuts other guy, gets arrested.
The boy friend did the violence, but it was the girl who dragged him into the fight. I've seen this sort of thing happen more than once, where the woman starts an argument and then demands the man "protect her honor". I've read quite a few news reports about violence that got started due to women demanding men deal with people who "disrespected" them.
As far as the other thing, men getting involved in crime because women are attracted to "gangstas" with cash more than honest janitors, do you really dispute it happens?
I was in a relationship with a woman who thought that a good opening line in an argument was to take a swing at my face with the palm of her hand. Or, dig her finger nails into my wrists or shoulders and try to kick me in the nuts at the same time.
Unfortunately for her, I was a bit of a boxer in college and she never landed a clean blow on me and I was way too smart to put her face down like she deserved because in our town it didn’t matter what the facts were, the man ended up in the patrol car in cuffs.
So it gave me great pleasure when my new girlfriend who was captain of her high school basketball team, a 180’s bowler, could line drive a softball to the fence, and had four mean assed older brothers, settled the score with her. One does not usually want to condone violence, but when the old gal yanked the passenger door of my car open and pulled the new girl out of the car by the hair, I just knew it would end well. Several witnesses saw her do it and when they were putting her in the ambulance, all I remember was the cop saying: “lady, if she presses charges its YOU I am going to arrest, not her.”
What she found was that while most women, upon being hit, would decide "that's it, I'm leaving" and go. Others would keep going back to the men who battered them. What Pizzey discovered was that, among this latter group, there were women who were addicted to the adrenaline rush they got from being around violent situations. While some men might satisfy their need for an adrenaline rush by sky-diving or other dangerous activities, these women would get it by seeing how close to the edge they could provoke men.
Your son?
I have been on our local Child Abuse prevention council for years. Children under five who are abused or neglected have brains that do not physically develop normally. Many are hyper-vigilant. Also, when Mom is addicted (particularly meth) and not bonding (attachement disorder) with or attending to their physical needs, they cry and act out more to get the same attention a normal child would get with much less demand.
Yeh, it really messes them up for the rest of their lives.
Look at page 8 of this presentation and you can see the physical impact of abuse on a child’s brain: http://childtrauma.org/images/stories/docs/nmt_core_slides_2011.pdf
http://teacher.scholastic.com/professional/bruceperry/index.htm
And in doing so, squander the sublimation of libido to which Freud and others attributed the advance of civilization. Which is exactly what it appears islam has done.
I don't doubt at all that the men and women who grow up in a messed up environment are messed up. It doesn't alter my original point that women instigate a lot of the violence, by one means or another.
And I will disagree with you. A man can always say no. He does have choices.
sorry, that was not meant for you PapaBear
So is the author suggesting we need to arrest more women? Or let most of the men go? There’s obviously a bias in the arrest pattern. The bobbies must me gender profiling.
In modern society, males are berated from an early age to suppress their masculinity. They are taught that anything of a male nature is evil and must be suppressed.
But they cannot keep their nature bottled up, and it will eventually boil over as rage. We wonder why we suddenly blow up over some minor thing like the kids spilling milk or over some comment from our wives.
I’ve seen this with boys who are not allowed to play with toy guns or toy swords. They are the most aggressive children in the neighborhood, perpetually angry.
I've found that playing first-person shooter games relaxes me, and provides a safe outlet for annoyance.
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