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Why I do not believe in the 'Rapture'

Posted on 11/26/2011 3:33:54 PM PST by Iggles Phan

My problem with the 'Rapture' (pre-millenial; pre-tribulation) teaching is that it forces its adherents to actually REVERSE the Person of Jesus Christ to the Devil.

That's correct.

In the 'Rapture' (or Dispensational) scheme the believer is asked to take the Person of Daniel's 70th Week (Who is Jesus Christ at the Cross) described in Chapter 9, verse 27a:

"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, ..."

... and reverse this 'he' to mean a 'future Antichrist'.

Are you confused?

Is this Jesus Christ or Antichrist?

1. The Historic View.

This view is typified by the 1599 Geneva Bible notes. These are the notes of John Calvin, Miles Coverdale, and John Knox to name a few.

1599 Geneva Bible Notes on Daniel 9:27a:

"By the preaching of the gospel he confirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection."

It's pretty clear that the Reformers believed that Christ was the Person of Daniel's Great 70th Week.

2. The Modernist View (Dispensational).

In contrast however, compare this historic view to the Dispensational view typified in the Ryrie Study Notes (1978). Look who the modernists assign to this very same Person in Daniel 9:27a:

"The prince of verse 26, the Antichrist previously introduced in 7:8, 24-26, who will make a pact with many (of the Jewish people) at the beginning of the tribulation period. But in the middle of the week (i.e., 3 1/2 years later) Antichrist will break his covenant and desecrate the Temple by demanding worship of himself in it."

The difference couldn't be farther apart.

Historic Christianity says that Jesus fulfilled the 70th week AT THE CROSS, but Rapture Christianity (Dispensationalism) says that the Devil fulfills it in a 're-built' temple.

Therefore, Dispensationalism is no less than a frontal assault on the Cross of Christ. It reverses Jesus Christ to the Devil. It is malicious and a pernicious doctrine.

Remember, this Dispensational view was NEVER known until 1830. That's why it is a Modernist view. It was invented by JN Darby and popularized by CI Scofield, two con-men to Christianity.

In the 20th century, carpetbaggers such as Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, Jack (and Rexella) Van Impe, John Hagee and others have made fame and fortune off of this con game. They have marketed this 'Rapture' theology like a cheap box of laundry detergent on TV and radio, and with videos and books.

My hope and prayer is that the Church starts to wake up out of its slumber and starts challenging its pastors, ministries, and teachers. The Cross of Christ is at stake here!

For the Glory of Christ Jesus. Amen.


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1 posted on 11/26/2011 3:33:56 PM PST by Iggles Phan
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To: sauropod

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2 posted on 11/26/2011 3:35:28 PM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: Iggles Phan

This has been my conclusion as well. Do you have any books or websites you can link so that I can read more on the “historical” view?


3 posted on 11/26/2011 3:36:13 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Iggles Phan

Welcome to FR.

Did you post under a different username previously?

I find it odd that a new signer upper thinks he can start posting articles - esp about controversial topics - right away.


4 posted on 11/26/2011 3:37:07 PM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: Iggles Phan
The Antichrist sitting in the temple and declaring himself to be "god" is called in Scripture the "Abomination of Desolation".

Was the birth and death of Jesus Christ an abomination?

5 posted on 11/26/2011 3:38:06 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: Iggles Phan

You signed up today, to post this? Strange.


7 posted on 11/26/2011 3:39:09 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: sauropod

The handle sounds like Rush’s word for the Philadelphia Eagles: Iggles. Iggles Phan = Eagles Fan.


8 posted on 11/26/2011 3:40:40 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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So what your saying is we will live through the tribulation and face God’s wrath upon the earth and its inhabitants?


9 posted on 11/26/2011 3:41:10 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I first came upon this line of thinking in Matthew Henry’s commentaries (very excellent). The argument goes that the abomination of desolation would have been the Roman armies, with their pagan symbols, surrounding the Holy City. Check out Josephus’s War Of the Jews. There were signs and wonders which preceded the destruction of Jerusalem that were quite incredible, so to a certain degree it is reasonable to conclude that scripture either had a double meaning or was referring to that destruction.

Of course, I have not studied any of this for a couple of years.


11 posted on 11/26/2011 3:43:16 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Iggles Phan

The term “Rapture” is in the Latin Vulgate, circa 400 AD.

If there is no rapture, then just what is 1 Thessalonians 4:17 about?


12 posted on 11/26/2011 3:44:10 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Iggles Phan

Wide is the road to destruction.


13 posted on 11/26/2011 3:44:52 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Iggles Phan

So you signed up in FRee Republic just to post this vanity about your unBiblical beliefs ???

Good luck with the VK...


14 posted on 11/26/2011 3:46:46 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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The Abomination of Desolation doesn't have anything to do with the destruction of Jerusalem.

The phrase “abomination of desolation” refers to Matthew 24:15: “So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand.” This is referring to Daniel 9:27, “He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”

15 posted on 11/26/2011 3:47:17 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: Iggles Phan
Wasn't this whole Rapture thing first started in the 1970's???
16 posted on 11/26/2011 3:47:41 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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Never mind - just found "John Nelson Darby first proposed and popularized the pre-tribulation rapture in 1827. "
17 posted on 11/26/2011 3:49:22 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: Iggles Phan
Well, you like everyone else on earth are given a choice to believe whatever you choose to by the good Lord himself. Just don't be surprised when it doesn't work out the way you choose to believe.
19 posted on 11/26/2011 3:49:33 PM PST by Ron H. (No to Romney, Perry, Gingrich and Huntsmen!)
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