Why I do not believe in the 'Rapture'

[huskerjim]

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[GiovannaNicoletta]

Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have not hope. We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. According to the Lord’s own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, which pre-dates John Darby by a couple thousand years.

Rapture, aka harpazo (original Greek used in the text), aka "violent snatching away".

The Rapture is clearly spelled out in Scripture, and fallen, unredeemed man denies that major doctrine at their own peril.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

You’re right, as usual.

[Uri’el-2012]

These are the notes of John Calvin, Miles Coverdale, and John Knox to name a few.

1599 Geneva Bible Notes on Daniel 9:27a:

"By the preaching of the gospel he confirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection."

It's pretty clear that the Reformers believed that Christ was the Person of Daniel's Great 70th Week.

I'm sorry to tell you that either
they were wrong or
you have misinterpted them.

Rashi Identifies the person as someone
representing the Roman Empire.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Apollo5600]

The one problem I’ve always had with this is the idea that the Temple in Israel would have to be rebuilt. However, even if it is rebuilt, it wouldn’t be a real temple of God. Their sacrifices would be irrelevant. All of it wouldn’t matter. How can one abominate something that is itself an abomination that denies Jesus Christ?

[mountainlion]

Before that it was catching away.

[bigheadfred]

The Rapture already happened. Thing is, they didn’t take any peeple...

[buccaneer81]

Well, come on...speak up.

[garybob]

I noticed several things about your post:

You completely ignore 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4.

You're completely wrong about the nature of the Rapture, something even 1st Century Christians were looking forward to.

You've not bothered to reply to any of the posts directed to you, despite the divisive nature of your first article.

Welcome to FR

[scottteng]

THE MILLENNIUM

Loraine Boettner
©1957
Excellent theologian he died in 1940 so not exactly a new ager. The Scofield and Darby mentions on the thread are accurate. One of my favorite post Trib preachers always put it to his audience this way what are the consequences of being in error on this point. If I have erred I fly away with you to a mild rebuke if you are wrong you must without proper preparation endure the worst trial in human history.

[grumpa]

Another view with a strong biblical foundation that the dispensational view of the rapture is incorrect:

www.prophecyquestions.wordpress.com

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Well, there is no Jewish temple in Israel now, and unless we're going to deny Scripture, we know from the book of Daniel that the Antichrist will stand in the temple and declare himself to be "god", so, since there is no temple now, for that prophecy to be fulfilled, and we know it will be fulfilled because God said it will happen, then a temple will have to be rebuilt.

Our opinions about this have absolutely no relevance whatsoever. God still has seven years to deal with His chosen people, and those seven years will, according to what God has told us, include the reestablishment of sacrifices in a temple which will have to be rebuilt.

Those are the facts. And, since hundreds of Biblical prophecies have already been fulfilled, we can know without the slightest doubt that the prophesied temple will be rebuilt, and the Antichrist will stand in that temple and declare himself to be "god".

[Bowtie52]

You aren’t the first to disagree with the Bible. Good luck with it.

[spacejunkie01]

I agree completely. This is VERY irresponsible teaching and people should run from any church that teaches this as it is clearly not supported by Scripture.

[bigheadfred]

What do you want them to say?

“I like my dog. Well
done...”

[spacejunkie01]

The word ‘meet’ in that scripture in the Greek means as going out to meet an official and BRINGING HIM BACK.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Hi Uri'el-2012! Have you seen this?

Blueprints and Computer Animation of the Sanhedrin Chamber of Hewn Stone

We can see what the rebuilt temple is going to look like!

[enduserindy]

Technology narrows it more and more each day.

[faucetman]

Thank you for posting. AMEN. There it is plain as day in scripture. What more would anyone need?