Posted on 11/30/2011 4:58:51 AM PST by djf
Bow I know that sometime in the future, filament type light bulbs will stop being sold.
Question: ALL filament type bulbs or just the ones used for lamps, etc?
The reason I ask is that I have a number of fixtures in my house that use the little 25W or so vanity type clear light bulbs and I have never seen itty-bitty fluorescents that could go in those fixtures.
So now I gotta start ripping things out and re-wiring stuff?
Anyone know?
Thanks!
That’s something I’ve seen commented a lot.
Recently I noticed, a trend toward encasing CFL bulbs in a smooth external bulb shell - resulting in a CFL within a round globe - manufactured that way, with the external globe.
I’ve been wondering whether that external globe, prevents the curly-que CFL bulb from catching fire, if it burns out. Anyone happen to know?
That small fire hazard from CFL’s is a deal breaker.
—CFLs are a joke and won’t be around once LEDs come down in price enough. —
That is exactly how I see it. I see CFL’s as the modern equivalent of the first cars produced after the government implemented bumper standards on cars. Man those cars were ugly. It’s no longer an issue, though. ;-)
CFL’s are a stopgap.
Presuming a Republican President and Senate in 2012 to go along with the Republican House, repeal of this stupid law would be an early, easy, quick place to start the roll back of intrusive big government ... unless, of course, the progressive Rino Republicans hold sway.
Wal-Mart has them.
—I think you will need to upgrade your Easy-Bake oven also.—
Oh crap! And the self cleaning feature requires a 1,000 watt halogen!
Agreed.
The increasingly pertinent measure is lumens - since watts no longer relate logically to brightness, the 100w equivalent is something like 1500 lumens?
I think currently it’s something like 100 watts = 1500 lumens = 26 watt CFL?
I’m sure there’s some LED equivalent way down around 5-10 watts, but they’re still astoundingly expensive.
A few years back, I go out on my porch one summer night.
It’s dark. Not because of night, well, yes, because of night, but my main outdoor light had blown. Sits on top of about a 17 foot pole.
So I went up there and got it and replaced it. It was a sodium-vapor light.
It’s on a photo sensor so it comes on auto at dark. And had been coming on for all the time I lived hear and even before, I estimate it had burned and worked good for more than 17 years.
LED lighting is costly because of the electronic boards and circuitry required to make them work. The trade off is in the savings in electricity as well as the decades of trouble free operation they will yield. As far as being economical, there is no fair comparison. The LED wins hands down.
Not only that, your smart choice also saved you about 2/3rds the cost for electricity to operate it over that period.
As these threads come up, I’d offer a thought.
Last year in one of these, a Freeper put in a link to a company called national hospitality supply. You can find them on the web.
They sell regular cheap bulbs and a bit more expensive commercial version that lasts years called the decade bulb.
I bought a bunch of the 75 and 100 watt decade bulbs from them. Very happy.
CFLs are terrible. LED’s still very expensive and I’m not yet sold on their light spectrum. So I will be stocked for ten years with normal incandescents and wait it out.
A friend of mine is into industrial lighting and he does installations, etc.
He talks “temps” of lights, not meaning the thermometer temperature, but the spectrum-equivalent of what temp the light would have to work at to match the spectrum.
He also says CFL’s are just about the very worst spectrum lights for your eyes that have ever been invented!
Plus I guess they put out a huge amount of electromagnetic noise that can screw up sensitive instruments.
Pretty soon, either you won’t be able to afford electricity or your Smart Meter won’t let you have any.
So it really does not matter.
Can you give me any info on the sleep disturbance?
They are basically a $30 bill any thief or indigent person can unscrew and slip into their pocket.
Expect to see lots of "street corner resales" of $30 LEDs for ten bucks.
See 34. Comments or thoughts?
When I originally heard about the effect of Fluorescent lighting on sleep, it was on the radio, and it was before CFL’s came out. It was referring to people who worked under fluorescent lighting at work, and to the best of my recollection, it was that if you are exposed for more than one hour under the light, it interferes with (I believe it was) melatonin regulation, and that exposure of one hour or longer would cause you to have difficulty sleeping for the next 3 hours. I just did a quick internet search, and there are several pages (Just search CFL or Fluorescent lighting, and sleep disruption).
Here is one link to an eHow page, not exactly authoritative in my book, but at the bottom of the page there are almost 2 dozen references to look at:
“Dangers of CFL Light Bulbs”
http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_8381769_dangers-cfl-light-bulbs.html
I also found on Soundsleeping.org that it says that artificial lighting (both Incandescent and Fluorescent) lighting causes your body to think that days are longer, but it was not specific, or well referenced. I’ll try and find more info and get back to you, but the eHow references are probably a good place to start.
We bought an LED to try out. It was $8. It lasted two days before burning out.
Have you had this problem with them at all?
It’s like this. I have a light that comes on at night and stays lit all nigh attached to the front of my garage.
I was putting a light bulb in there every 3 weeks when it nurned out A year ago I pleced one of the curly’s in there and haven’t had to replace it yet.
My dining room light is enclosed i a holder, and the heat was burning out that bulb every couple of months. I put the curly in there and it is still in there.
After getting used to themomentary pause before you get light, I don’t have a problem with the curly’s.
It’s like this. I have a light that comes on at night and stays lit all nigh attached to the front of my garage.
I was putting a light bulb in there every 3 weeks when it nurned out A year ago I pleced one of the curly’s in there and haven’t had to replace it yet.
My dining room light is enclosed i a holder, and the heat was burning out that bulb every couple of months. I put the curly in there and it is still in there.
After getting used to the momentary pause before you get light, I don’t have a problem with the curly’s.
You can get both regular base and the small base low watt fluorescent bulbs. The problem we’ve had is that the bases on the smaller based bulbs is that they have a tendency to twist off when you unscrew them. The only thing I want, is regular night light bulbs to stay on the market.
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