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Wolves in Imnaha pack kill rancher's cow in Wallowa County (OR)
The Oregonian ^ | December 13, 2011 | Lynne Terry

Posted on 12/13/2011 4:16:46 PM PST by jazusamo

Imnaha alpha wolf.JPG
Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife
The alpha wolf in the Imnaha pack was collared
in May and is being tracked by state biologists.

A pack of wolves roaming grasslands in Eastern Oregon killed another cow over the weekend.

The Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife said a yearling heifer was found dead on a ranch east of Joseph in Wallowa County. ODFW officials said the rancher had coraled his 700 cattle Sunday night in a pasture near his home and that the wolves broke in and chased them out, killing a heifer. The wolves returned the next night to the same ranch but no cows were killed.

Russ Morgan, ODFE’s wolf coordinator, said the Imnaha pack has killed 19 cows since spring 2010. Usually wolves go after calves, which are the easiest prey, but the past three cows killed were adults or adult-sized, Morgan said.

“It’s worrying for livestock producers,” he said. “It’s an alarming trend.”

The agency would like to kill two wolves in the pack of at least five animals but a court-ordered stay halted that plan Oct. 5 . Wildlife advocates, who took the agency to court, want the state to focus more preserving gray wolves which are protected in Oregon as an endangered species.

Rob Klavins of Oregon Wild said that the number of livestock killed by gray wolves is miniscule compared with the numbers that die being born, in severe weather or from disease. Ranchers also lose cows to thieves.

“Wolves are not a threat to the livestock industry,” Klavins said, emphasizing the need for the state to balance the needs of ranchers with conservation.

The Oregon Department of Agriculture is creating a wolf compensation program which should be in effect by early 2012. The program will pay ranchers, including the latest one, whose cattle are killed by the wolves.



TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: livestockdepredation; oregon; wolf; wolves
This is just nuts when wildlife activists are allowed to run State Department of Fish & Wildlife management programs through lawsuits.

This alpha male wolf will not stop killing livestock and he's teaching the pack the same.

1 posted on 12/13/2011 4:16:51 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: george76; Flycatcher; girlangler

Wolf Ping!


2 posted on 12/13/2011 4:21:37 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

There’s a reason our forefathers took these critters out. We need them like we need more cats.


3 posted on 12/13/2011 4:26:06 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
Well said.

I'm sure glad the dinosaurs all died out before all these goofy environmentalists came along.

4 posted on 12/13/2011 4:34:28 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
Well said and all too true.

I get sick of hearing the wolf lovers say they only kill the sick and the old wildlife, they kill the young and many times not for food but just for the sake of killing.

We and the ecosystem got along just fine without wolves for 70 or 80 years, there's no reason to put up with them now.

5 posted on 12/13/2011 4:34:36 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I can think of .308 solutions to this problem.


6 posted on 12/13/2011 4:34:52 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: jazusamo

That’s some of the most beautiful and rugged country anywhere: just east of Imnaha is Hells Canyon....just west is Joseph and Wallowa Lake. The drive from Imnaha to Halfway and then on to Baker City is a real treat, especially by motorcycle. Once you see it you can understand how the wolves, bear, and elk act as though they own it. To a large extent they do, even today.


7 posted on 12/13/2011 4:35:58 PM PST by doyle
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To: jazusamo
ODFW officials said the rancher had coraled his 700 cattle Sunday night in a pasture near his home...

What? The rancher doesn't own a gun? Oh, he's not allowed to shoot the wolves? Bullshit!! "Oh, sorry Mr. Gamewarden, it happened at night and I have no idea who did it".

8 posted on 12/13/2011 4:36:48 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: jazusamo

SSS (and get rid of the collar)


9 posted on 12/13/2011 4:37:44 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: jazusamo
Idaho Wolves becoming more and more a problem...a dangerous problem
10 posted on 12/13/2011 4:38:40 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: doyle

You’re right, I’ve only been through there once but it’s what I’d say is God’s country. I hunted for many years SW of there in Harney County/Eastern, OR and that’s also beautiful but it’s not quite the same.


11 posted on 12/13/2011 4:40:46 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Reminds me of a story:

The Sierra Club and the U.S. Forest Service were presenting an alternative to the Wyoming ranchers for controlling the coyote population. It seems that after years of the ranchers using the tried and true method of shooting or trapping the predators, the Sierra Club had a “more humane” solution to this issue. What they were proposing was for the animals to be captured alive. The males would then be castrated and let loose again. This was ACTUALLY proposed by the Sierra Club and by the U.S. Forest Service. All of the ranchers thought about this amazing idea for a couple of minutes. Finally an old fellow wearing a big cowboy hat in the back of the conference room stood up, tipped his hat back and said; “Son, I don’t think you understand our problem here... these coyotes ain’t f@k*&n’ our sheep... they’re eatin’ ‘em!” The meeting never really got back to order. . .


12 posted on 12/13/2011 4:42:28 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: Jeff Head

Yep, the wolf activists want the same thing to come about in OR, of course they live in the big cities.


13 posted on 12/13/2011 4:43:54 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: cowtowney

LOL!

I’ve read that several times and I still chuckle when I read it, the old boy is right. :)


14 posted on 12/13/2011 4:46:47 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGwi_IYkxAoIA_DuHcSRo1iv-2Rdls_tUWMiRofPasVm2fBj8zFQ

Can’t post the pic from my so called smart phone ....


15 posted on 12/13/2011 4:53:40 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jazusamo

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGwi_IYkxAoIA_DuHcSRo1iv-2Rdls_tUWMiRofPasVm2fBj8zFQ

Can’t post the pic from my so called smart phone ....


16 posted on 12/13/2011 4:54:10 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

That would definitely be effective for plinking wolves. :)


17 posted on 12/13/2011 4:57:35 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Wolves were reintroduced to kill off the elk and deer and then the Dems would start arguing about taking away rifles.
“What do you need rifles for? The wolves are taking care of the elk and deer populations. And, besides, we’ve got rifles.”


18 posted on 12/13/2011 5:01:18 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: doyle

Great description——it sounds beautiful.

I hadn’t even heard of the area.


19 posted on 12/13/2011 5:05:46 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: jazusamo

Easy to predict....and it will get worse.

Great Boy Scout Camp there at the lake.
Went in the 60’s when Walter Brennan had a home across the lake.


20 posted on 12/13/2011 5:07:46 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: MeganC
I can think of .308 solutions to this problem. Nothing there a 180 grain Nosler partition couldn't handle.
21 posted on 12/13/2011 5:10:09 PM PST by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Pterodactyls would make me leery of letting kids out to play. A fellow would need quite a fowling piece...


22 posted on 12/13/2011 5:25:07 PM PST by One Name
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To: blueunicorn6

Their goal is exactly to put rifles on the endangered list. Then, conservatives.


23 posted on 12/13/2011 5:27:43 PM PST by One Name
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To: One Name

It’s those wascally T-Rex guys that would scare me. Imagine one of those boys passing through the neighborhood.


24 posted on 12/13/2011 5:28:31 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: jazusamo

One cow? Thats it?

In a little berg up here by the name Perronville, A cattle farmer has had 32 head killed by wolves.

In Iron County, a farmer there has got some kind of dogs, that kill wolves, and I understand they do a very good job of it. He lets them patrol the fence lines and they actually will attack and kill the whole pack if they come across.


25 posted on 12/13/2011 5:31:32 PM PST by crz
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To: jazusamo

UN Agenda 21 is working - as planned


26 posted on 12/13/2011 5:31:43 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jazusamo

Let’s have the courts force the eco-nuts to be held financially liable for the actions of the wolves and then see what happens after that. What happens if the wolves start killing human beings? I guess we can take the eco-nuts and put them on death row.


27 posted on 12/13/2011 5:37:51 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: crz

That’s the 19th head this pack has killed since the Spring of 2010.


28 posted on 12/13/2011 5:38:41 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Those damn Triceratops and Anklyosauri keep tearing my fences up. Armor piercing rounds don’t faze them.


29 posted on 12/13/2011 5:39:04 PM PST by One Name
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To: george76

I’m afraid you’re right.


30 posted on 12/13/2011 5:40:00 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: doyle

That’s way out there in the northeastern part of the State near the border with Idaho. It looks really, really remote and rugged territory!


31 posted on 12/13/2011 5:44:19 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: cowtowney

Very funny story! (regardless of true or not)


32 posted on 12/13/2011 5:49:09 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: crz
"In Iron County, a farmer there has got some kind of dogs, that kill wolves, and I understand they do a very good job of it. He lets them patrol the fence lines and they actually will attack and kill the whole pack if they come across."

Those dogs are called Irish Wolfhounds. They are very good with children and families, but if a wolf or coyote or other predator gets within sight of them they're as good as dead. I can see this breed getting popular with the folks who live in the areas where wolves are running wild in America again.


Videos:
Video about the breed.
Second video.
33 posted on 12/13/2011 6:05:17 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: crz

I don’t have any links but folks up here in the inland Northwest (near the Canadian border) are talking about wolves stalking the Australian Shepherd flock guardians.

That breed might kill a wolf one on one but they operate alone. The wolves operate as a pack and some of them are the same size as the livestock dogs. Livestock dogs don’t stand a chance against a wolf pack despite boasts from breeders. They will annihilate a pack of coyotes but putting them out alone with a wolf pack is wasting a good dog.

I fear the wolves will continue to get bigger where they feed on livestock under government protection. They won’t expend nearly the calories tracking wild game if they kill domesticated livestock.

I may have to deal with these soon as we are considering running livestock on our acreage. I might have to stock up on anti-freeze and blood from the next deer..... never know when it might be useful. ;)


34 posted on 12/13/2011 6:43:22 PM PST by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: cowtowney

cowboy wisdom is far superior to a college degree. The west was won by cowboys not college teachers....This country was made great on such wisdom, that is why the intellectuals have to denigrate the cowboy attitude.


35 posted on 12/13/2011 11:53:11 PM PST by goat granny
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To: jazusamo

They tract the wolves as well as the guns in Fast and Furious...have no intention of doing anything about it...


36 posted on 12/13/2011 11:54:41 PM PST by goat granny
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Brilliant observation. (seriously!)


37 posted on 12/14/2011 12:05:10 AM PST by firebrand (It's almost too late.)
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To: volunbeer

Dont do that. They will test the friggan things and accuse the nearest person.

I cant tell you what we do up here but the pack generally takes care of them after.

As for the dogs..Its some kind of dog that they use to hunt lions or something. I never got over to see them, but the guys that have, have said that the dogs are HUGE. I suppose he has three or four..I dunno.


38 posted on 12/14/2011 2:51:23 PM PST by crz
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Maybe that is the breed. Like I told the other person..I never got over to see the dogs, but they said that they are huge. I also thought that someone had said that the breed he has will hunt lions. I do not know the particulars.

I do know this. We moved onto a job up that way the end of feb a couple years back. The deer moved in to feed off the buds on the tops and there were 19 at our best count. When we left two weeks later, there was not one deer left. The wolves got the whole herd.


39 posted on 12/14/2011 2:58:03 PM PST by crz
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To: crz
In Iron County, a farmer there has got some kind of dogs, that kill wolves,

Got a farmer friend in N.W. Kansas who hunts coyotes with greyhounds and several hybrids. One such hybrid he had was part wolfhound, part wolf and part greyhound.........Big body and thick hair of the wolfhound, eyes of the wolf and the running muscles of the greyhound. This dog was a monstrous beauty to behold.......

40 posted on 12/14/2011 3:08:48 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Be good, Santa is coming)
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To: crz

Irish Wolfhounds were bred to hunt down and kill wolves but I don’t know about lions.

I think a legal way to get rid of these wolves is to take three to five (or more) of your best wolfhounds (with the best hunting and fighting skills) on hikes into areas where the wolves are known to be. Keep a .45 or .44 pistol on you at all times and keep one wolfhound with you in case one tries to sneak up on you while the other wolfhounds are dealing with wolves. Your dogs take care of bidness and you take them home and fix them up.

When the eco-nuts find the wolves’ carcasses all over the place all they will able to tell is that another animal tore them to shreds.

All you know is that you went on a hike with your dogs, the wolves tried to attack you, your dogs protected you - end of story. Wink-Wink!

I wouldn’t mind being hired to take lots of long nature hikes with Irish Wolfhounds! And I’m sure those that would hire me wouldn’t mind it a bit either.


41 posted on 12/14/2011 6:54:37 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: george76; jazusamo

A Mexican Gray Wolf was shot on a ranch here in N.M. last week. The wolf was on the porch where a woman and her children were alone. The wolf was very aggressive, they think trying to breed with domestic dogs. She had already had one little of hybrids.


42 posted on 12/20/2011 4:25:31 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler

Then a neighbor came speeding up the driveway, shouting out the window, she wrote.

“He yelled for me to take the girls inside while pointing to the dogs who were roughhousing with a collared wolf no farther than 35 feet from my 2-year-old daughter. I grabbed my girls and ran inside, slamming the door behind us.”

http://azstarnet.com/news/science/environment/gray-wolf-killed-while-lurking-near-nm-ranch/article_00e00b4c-4f18-5d4a-a0a9-7491f9d8751e.html


43 posted on 12/20/2011 11:34:11 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Diana in Wisconsin; jazusamo; Flycatcher

I meant litter. Sheeesh.


44 posted on 12/21/2011 4:22:06 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler

Hiya, Girl.

I missed your post yesterday. I imagine the wolf lovers weren’t too happy about that but that’s tough, when they’re not afraid of man that’s what they deserve.

Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and GREAT NEW YEAR!


45 posted on 12/21/2011 4:39:06 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Merry Christmas to you and yours Jaz, and wish you a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year.

New post and ping coming.


46 posted on 12/21/2011 5:03:03 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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