My opinion?
Newt nominated = Obama reelected
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Bachmann supported the same plan on Sept 7th yet people give her a free pass.
HARRIS: A quick 30-second rebuttal on the specific question. The fence is built, the border is under control. What do you do with 11.5 million people who are here without documents and with U.S.- born children?
BACHMANN: Well, that’s right. And again, it is sequential, and it depends upon where they live, how long they have been here, if they have a criminal record. All of those things have to be taken into place.
Oh well - there goes 2012! We’re doomed, we don’t have chance and all we can expect is “4 more years!”
By the time it all takes effect, Newt's presidency will be on the lecture circuit or honeymooning with wife #5.
Of all the candidates, I trust Newt LEAST.
Newt knew that before he said it..
He has been dealing with democrats for many years..
And knows how policies actually shake out..
BUT; then Newt didn’t invent “the System”.. he adjusted to it..
Newt is the best of the NON Constitutional candidates..
Ron Paul, is, of course, the ONLY Constitutional candidate..
I put it too YAH.. you want to follow the Constitution?.. OR NOT?..
Newt like the Democrats want the Constitution “ADJUSTED”.. just in different ways..
Because new immigrant citizens have voted 80% for the Democratic Party in the last five Congressional elections.
So far, Conservatives have been lucky.
New immigrant citizens have a very low voter participation rate.
When new citizens begin to vote at the same rate as Conservatives, the Democratic Party will take permanent control of both Houses of Congress.
The 25 year minimum will be cut to 10, mark my words. Those who were here illegally 25 years ago were already amnestied in 1986.
Many things about what Newt will do as president will be the death of conservatives if they come out in droves to support him. Conservatives will receive the final judgment of not being a party that represents anything different than any other party.
I admit that the hour is late now for this country in that it cannot stand more of what is happening right now with the anti-American leftist’s in control. But lets face it. Newt is not much better. It is too bad that conservatives did not stick to their guns many years ago, and refuse to support anyone who was not a real conservative because at this point the American people might have been willing to try a real conservative for president. As it is they already think they tried one with GW bush. If they actually try Newt then it will be even worse.
Sadly, I doubt that when that times comes, that we will be able to gather here and talk about it.
I believe that the leftists are gleeful about this Gingrich surge. I believe they are laying low on purpose. I believe they are waiting for republicans to choose him. And as soon as you do then the media attacks are going to start running like water over Niagara Falls. I believe that is what Queen Nancy was referring to the other day.
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The same thing would happen in conservative counties as well because the Border Patrol and ICE would be prohibited from deporting or prosecuting any illegal alien falsely claiming residency just like in 1986.
Anybody who thinks about this plan for more than 5 seconds will realize how stupid and dishonest it is. Newt surely knows about the history and fraud and he still supports it. So he must be dishonest amnesty activist too.
Is handwritten lease or verbal testimony from neighbor enough evidence to prove illegal has been here 25 years? These issues will be defined by gov agencies and courts.
Every (non-white) person on this planet, with the help of La Raza/ACORN can provide necessary “proof”.
What about people who have been 20 years? Will they still be deported? Of course not. They are so close to 25 years (or whatever is the limit), that additional clarifications, at least by executive order, would be created.
So this would be absolute 100% blanket amnesty.
Occasional high profile murderer may be deported, that’s all.
Citizen boards are a joke. Everybody hate jury duty already, now another board? Why liberals in San Francisco should have the right to legalize 100M illegals? Of course, every illegal would go through San Francisco citizen board (remember, document fraud is so easy).
So this is absolute dishonesty.
If somebody does not understand the true nature of this (blanket amnesty), he/she is a total fool.
Newt’s “let’s secure border” is like “let’s reduce unemployment” Everybody is saying that, even Obama.
Newt has fought against employer verifications when he was in Congress.
The real solution is this:
- make sure no amnesty, ever, is forthcoming
- old-fashion fence in many areas (so future admin can not easily reduce security by executive order)
- e-verify (and jail executives who hire illegals)
- support strict state laws
- streamline deportation proceedings
Based on the postings today, I have started to wonder if Vanity means posted by a Paulbot.
Newt could be forced to back down from his claim to grant "legality" to that group once the facts were thrown in Newt's face and tell him that those people are here because he and others in Congress since that time failed to keep their word or do their job!
Newt is first and foremost a political animal and want's the top job.
Just like some of the wishy/washy folk in DC, he can be made to stand and fight - if, and only if, he knows there are others behind him (with pitch forks) to stand against the pro-amnesty filth, including those in the Church as it's only being done for money. Follow the money and you'll expose those who insist on keeping illegals coming here. It's not merely about being "hospital to travelers amongst us" it's about continuing to keep them coming for slave labor and illegal voting plus getting your tax dollars for having "disadvantaged" folk in our midst.
The status quo is much preferable to Newt’s amnesty plan.
Newt is radioactive material. I agree with Ann Coulter.
Newt’s written plan does not include any mention of 25 years or any time limit at all.
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Priorities. I’m way more interested in getting rid of the people who came here recently—the women creating anchor babies, the young criminals, the real problems. I also think it’s easier on technical grounds to get rid of the newcomers than the ones who have been here a long time. If we can’t close and bolt the door, keep new illegals out, and chuck the recent arrivals out, we don’t have any chance of getting rid of the old-timers. We’re so far from doing any of this that the issue of longtime illegal residents is sort of a moot point.
Look at their accomplishments. Newt allied himself with Ronald Reagan to build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority (together the Reagan Revolution) which directly led the downfall of the Soviet Union, the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, long-standing Reagan economy.
Romney, on the other hand, vehemently denied Ronald Reagan and aligned himself with Ted Kennedy and the left. Romney accomplished installing liberal big government programs, defended and promoted Roe v Wade and legalized abortion as “settled law,” advocated and implemented RomneyCare with its liberty killing government mandates against formerly free citizens and its taxpayer funded or subsidized and mandated abortion procedures. He ran and governed to the left of Ted Kennedy on the “gay agenda” resulting in gay marriage in Massachusetts. He appointed liberal judges and liberal appointees throughout his government. Under his “leadership” conservatism and the Republican party was all but destroyed in Massachusetts.
Romney is one evil liberal progressive. No way in hell will MittBots be allowed to support this abortionist, big government, socialist scumbag on FR!
Guess my message isn’t clear enough. I have to keep repeating it and zotting would be MittBots.
79 posted on Sat Dec 03 2011 19:59:37 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) by Jim Robinson
You are aware that in 1986 Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to illegals who were in the USA...Let’s do some simple math 1986 + 25= 2011. So anyone here 25 years already has been granted amnesty. Newt’s plan does nothing to change the status of anyone. And he shrewdly knows it.