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Gunman dressed as Santa fatally shoots 7 people in Texas home
http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/9654834-418/gunman-dressed-as-santa-fatally-shoots-7-people-in-t ^

Posted on 12/26/2011 1:15:44 PM PST by dragnet2

Grapevine police investigate the scene where they found seven people dead outside Dallas in Grapevine, Texas, Sunday, Dec. 25, 2011.

Four women and three men who police believe to be related were found apparently shot to death, and authorities said they believe the shooter is among the dead.

Six members of a Texas family apparently opened Christmas presents just before a relative dressed as Santa Claus showed up, opened fire and killed them before killing himself, police said Monday.

Grapevine police spokesman Sgt. Robert Eberling said the shooter showed up in the Santa outfit shortly before gunfire erupted and was a member of the family.

They found four women and three men, aged 18 to 60, dead. A motive for the shootings remains unclear.

“It appears they had just celebrated Christmas. They had opened their gifts,” Grapevine Police Sgt. Robert Eberling said Sunday, adding that the apartment was decorated for the holiday, including a tree.

Jose Fernandez, a 35-year-old heavy equipment mechanic who moved to the complex with his family about six months ago, said he always felt safe in the area, but is now afraid to let his 10-year-old son play freely outside.


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Shows up on Christmas as Santa and shoot everyone to death?

This is like a bad horror movie.

1 posted on 12/26/2011 1:15:51 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
...they believe the shooter is among the dead.

Was the shooter dressed like Santa? (Do I have to do all the work here?)

2 posted on 12/26/2011 1:19:16 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: dragnet2

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this movie somewhere along the line. Seriously.....I recall a horror film where some mass-killer dressed up like Santa Claus!


3 posted on 12/26/2011 1:19:45 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: dragnet2
"They found four women and three men, aged 18 to 60, dead. A motive for the shootings remains unclear."

Must have been very, very naughty.

4 posted on 12/26/2011 1:20:30 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Libloather

“”Was the shooter dressed like Santa? (Do I have to do all the work here?)””

It only requires a tiny bit of work - it clearly says it in the article.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 1:22:40 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: dragnet2

Indeed...John Waters wrote about “Why I Love Christmas” and noted there was a horror movie called “Christmas Evil”,
I think. Tagline: “He’ll sleigh you.”

Also a few years ago I read about someone whose last name was Santa shooting somebody to death. I noted to myself, what did the victim get from Santa this year? Bullets... :(


6 posted on 12/26/2011 1:24:07 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: dragnet2

Didn’t like the cookies.


7 posted on 12/26/2011 1:24:27 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: dragnet2
Just as we were afraid...


8 posted on 12/26/2011 1:24:44 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

>>.I recall a horror film where some mass-killer dressed up like Santa Claus!

Christmas Evil? “He’ll Sleigh You”

aka Silent Night Deadly Night
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_evil

>>Phil quickly realizes that his brother is the homicidal Santa he has heard announced on the news and proceeds to choke him unconscious.


9 posted on 12/26/2011 1:25:57 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: dragnet2

it is interesting that the family is not identified.
In the Dallas paper ti reported the woman and man had just split and the man lived in their house not far from these apartments.
it also said the daughter had been dating someone without the father knowing.
This is a very bizarre and sad story


10 posted on 12/26/2011 1:26:09 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: billorites
Very naughty indeed.

For some reason I don't think that was on their Christmas gift list. I know it would be at the very bottom of mine!!!

11 posted on 12/26/2011 1:27:17 PM PST by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: dragnet2

12 posted on 12/26/2011 1:27:57 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: dragnet2

What sort of vile derangement would lead someone to not just want to kill his(?) own family members on Christmas but to hide behind a jolly, happy Santa costume while doing it?

Makes me think of John Wayne Gacy and his clown costumes, to be honest. Getting victims to let their guards down. Whoever it was, I’d be willing to be those dead, smoldering, soulless lump of coal eyes will be peering out of the photo.


13 posted on 12/26/2011 1:29:02 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Libloather
Was the shooter dressed like Santa?

Reading the article is generally helpful:

Grapevine police spokesman Sgt. Robert Eberling said the shooter showed up in the Santa outfit shortly before gunfire erupted and was a member of the family.

14 posted on 12/26/2011 1:29:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: raccoonradio

Silent Night, Deadly Night! That’s the one! One of the holiday-themed slasher films. It’s been at least 25 years since I’ve seen it.


15 posted on 12/26/2011 1:29:28 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: dragnet2

Looks like it’s time we federally regulate who buys and sells Santa suits! Perform a background check on anyone trying to buy one, make them wait seven days, and take a course from a certified tailor...that should solve this problem.
Cough...cough.


16 posted on 12/26/2011 1:29:41 PM PST by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: dragnet2

Who gets to keep the presents?


17 posted on 12/26/2011 1:31:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Yes—and the one I mentioned earlier, Christmas Evil is actually a different movie. About Silent Night, Deadly Night from Wikipedia:

>>Silent Night, Deadly Night was one of the most controversial films of the 1980s because the killer is dressed as Santa Claus. The PTA fought to have this film removed from theaters due to its subject matter and the fact that it was shown around Christmas, although an earlier film with a similar premise had gone unnoticed.

Upon its original release in 1984, the film created serious controversy. Siskel and Ebert condemned the film and went so far as to read the film’s production credits on air, saying “shame, shame” after each one. Siskel also said that all the money the filmmakers were making off of this film was blood money.] Leonard Maltin also condemned the film, calling it a “...worthless splatter film”, giving it zero stars and asking: “What’s next, the Easter Bunny as a child molester?” Large crowds (mostly angry families) formed at theaters and malls around the nation to protest the film


18 posted on 12/26/2011 1:33:13 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: dragnet2

Santa Claus is coming, tonite...


19 posted on 12/26/2011 1:33:21 PM PST by Diggity
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To: dragnet2

20 posted on 12/26/2011 1:33:45 PM PST by TomServo
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To: dragnet2
If you axe me, better dead than living dead!


21 posted on 12/26/2011 1:36:22 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!; Admin Moderator
7 people shot to death in a Texas home, by someone dressed as Santa Claus on Christmas, and the admin moderator puts this into the chat room...

But Christmas murders occurring in Nigeria, are at the top of "Breaking News".

Ya got to love it!

22 posted on 12/26/2011 1:41:37 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Happened in California three years ago too, sick SOB killed a lot of family or ex-family.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-12-26/justice/santa.shooter.plan_1_santa-suit-shotguns-police?_s=PM:CRIME


23 posted on 12/26/2011 1:41:41 PM PST by heartwood
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To: dragnet2

Bad Santa


24 posted on 12/26/2011 1:42:38 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Revolting cat!

Dang, looking at all your humorous post, I should have put this in Humor/Cartoons section of this site!


25 posted on 12/26/2011 1:47:07 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Revolting cat!
Who gets to keep the presents?

Hey, maybe you should put in a request!

Send them a list of items that might be of interest to you. Tell them you don't mind that they were already opened.

26 posted on 12/26/2011 1:54:16 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Libloather
...they believe the shooter is among the dead. Was the shooter dressed like Santa? (Do I have to do all the work here?)

lol. I don't know about you, but I'm disappointed in the responses this got.

27 posted on 12/26/2011 1:59:35 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Ignorance is no excuse.)
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To: Thank You Rush; Libloather
Was the shooter dressed like Santa?

What?? Read the article? Come on now. Lets be reasonable. That's takes waaaay too much time and effort.

I mean, it took me a whole 5 seconds to repeat what was already written in the article.

28 posted on 12/26/2011 2:02:37 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Libloather
Six members of a Texas family apparently opened Christmas presents just before a relative dressed as Santa Claus showed up, opened fire and killed them before killing himself,

************************************************************ Was the shooter dressed like Santa? (Do I have to do all the work here?)

Huh?

29 posted on 12/26/2011 2:03:25 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: dragnet2

I have a pretty dark sense of humor at times but don’t see anything funny about a mass murder on Christmas Day.


30 posted on 12/26/2011 2:04:48 PM PST by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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Well, apparently some of the posters here think this is the funniest damn holiday story of them all! (??)

I agree, some of the comments here are extremely bizarre....Then it's sent to chat, yet a mass murder in "Nigeria" is at the top of breaking news..

???

31 posted on 12/26/2011 2:10:17 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

just before a relative dressed as Santa Claus showed up, opened fire and killed them before killing himself,

Bad Santa....?


32 posted on 12/26/2011 2:10:41 PM PST by njslim
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To: njslim
Suspect dressed as Santa Claus, on Christmas, shooting to death a home full of people...Yeah, I'd say he was a bad guy.

But it's just a wild guess.

33 posted on 12/26/2011 2:24:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Hey, could you help the guy in door#2?

He still can’t figure out if the bad guy was the one dressed like Santa.

Thanks!


34 posted on 12/26/2011 2:29:43 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Strange that the names are not released.


35 posted on 12/26/2011 2:33:29 PM PST by Dante3
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To: dragnet2

Last month or so, there was another mass family shooting in a Dallas suburb. The family wasn’t identified in the news for a couple days. Turns out they were Vietnamese and that shooting was at a kid’s birthday party. This may be either related or is a copy cat.


36 posted on 12/26/2011 2:42:44 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Dante3

I noted that.

Very odd.


37 posted on 12/26/2011 2:45:17 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bgill

I believe it was a shooting at a Dallas area roller rink where there were 6 dead, 4 injured, and all the victims were Vietnamese.


38 posted on 12/26/2011 2:57:43 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SiVisPacemParaBellum

Supposedly they will be releasing the names sometime late today (Monday) after the autopsies are completed. This is about 5 minutes from my house, and right in the middle of the area in which I was raised (just up the road from my mom and dad’s house).

Way too close to home. And very much out of character for this area. Grapevine is a big small town — still a lot of us here who have been here for a long time. I’m hoping that it isn’t a family I know (one news article says one of the victims is from Colleyville . . . town next door).


39 posted on 12/26/2011 3:13:55 PM PST by twinzmommy
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Supposedly they will be releasing the names sometime late today (Monday) after the autopsies are completed.

Which is very odd, since the investigators and coroner already know the causes of death of all the victims.

Someone is intentionally holding back the names of the victims involved in this incident, and the autopsy has nothing to do with it.

This might be understandable if the shooter/suspect was still outstanding, but he's dead too.

40 posted on 12/26/2011 3:18:18 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I’m with you — I think it’s odd. The age of the youngest victim has also varied from 15 to 18 depending on the news source. Haven’t seen anything in the usual places (i.e. Facebook) that would identify the family (I have 16 year old twins — they haven’t heard anything either).

Likely the Tarrant County Medical Examiner public access site will release the names first: http://mepublic.tarrantcounty.com/mepublic/


41 posted on 12/26/2011 3:22:20 PM PST by twinzmommy
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

***I recall a horror film where some mass-killer dressed up like Santa Claus!***

Wasn’t that on Turner Classic Movies Christmas eve late? I saw about 5 minutes of it before going to bed.


42 posted on 12/26/2011 3:24:18 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: twinzmommy
My hunch is this was a love triangle, and or x-husband/boyfriend who flipped his lid, decided to murder everyone around the Christmas tree.

The suspect likely dressed up in the Santa outfit to gain entry without being ID'd, and then just shot everyone to death in a rage.

43 posted on 12/26/2011 3:24:55 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FlashBack

I know you’re sarcastic, but I can think of a couple Congresscritters dumb enough to think this is a good idea.

He’s still hoping Guam doesn’t flip over.


44 posted on 12/26/2011 3:36:43 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: dragnet2
There wan an interview of a neighbor girl who knew one of them, she said
Something about being from IRAN and MUSLIM.

I wonder why they are withholding information about this case.. Hmmmm.

45 posted on 12/26/2011 3:43:32 PM PST by MaxMax
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There wan an interview of a neighbor girl who knew one of them, she said Something about being from IRAN and MUSLIM.

Why would Muslims be opening presents on Christmas?

Hmmm...

And why would this be a reason to withhold the victims names? Or the shooter?

46 posted on 12/26/2011 3:46:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Muslims have zero tolerance. I want to know the race of the victims.

The media blackout is telling.

47 posted on 12/26/2011 3:57:28 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: Dante3
Strange that the names are not released.

Finding next-of-kin might be a little difficult since he killed most of them.

48 posted on 12/26/2011 4:00:06 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: raccoonradio

““What’s next, the Easter Bunny as a child molester?””

Just a matter of time...


49 posted on 12/26/2011 4:01:15 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: OrangeHoof

Their holding back the name of the mass murdering suspect/shooter until they notify his next of kin?

That’s a first!


50 posted on 12/26/2011 4:06:08 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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