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1 posted on 01/05/2012 7:50:59 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven

Um, yes. I wish more people would have this epiphany.

You should read Dr Atkins’ book. You don’t have to follow the diet, but it is an interesting read. I have many physician friends who wish he would be posthumously awarded the Nobel prize in medicine. But I doubt the establishment would ever allow that to happen.


2 posted on 01/05/2012 7:53:46 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Brookhaven

Yes, and the government food pyramid was a deadly joke played on millions of Americans.


3 posted on 01/05/2012 7:54:00 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Brookhaven

Absolutely!

For example, put a piece of a cracker in your mouth and just let it dissolve. In a few moments, it will begin to taste sweet. The conversion into some type of sugar begins with the saliva in your mouth.

I’ve been on a meat, water and fat only diet for over 5 years.

Lost tons of weight, blood sugars perfect, cholesterol great shape, energy terrific, heart in great shape.

Carbs were killing me. I wasn’t diabetic, but I had serious issues with carb addiction and insulin reactions.

So, yes...carbs are sugar.


4 posted on 01/05/2012 7:54:57 AM PST by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Brookhaven

You also realize that fruits also contain suger, right?


6 posted on 01/05/2012 7:57:02 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Brookhaven
Someone on a healthy diet should get the majority of their calories from carbohydrates.

Carbohydrates need to be broken down into sugar - that is what makes them a great long term energy source - while a bunch of sugar itself will just burn you out.

There is a reason serious athletes “carbo-load” before a strenuous event - so their muscles will have energy to burn down the stretch.

Do you understand why they don't “sugar-load” before an event?

When you understand that you will understand the difference between a diet high in carbs and a diet high in sugar.

8 posted on 01/05/2012 7:58:28 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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Yes, your analysis seems correct and is well-stated.


9 posted on 01/05/2012 7:59:05 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Brookhaven
This is why complex carbs are preferred over processed foods. White bread, white rice, pasta break down so quickly for that burst of energy (which is why runners carb load), but whole grains break down slower for a longer lasting release of energy and no sugar spike.

Fruits are also confusing - some are just sugar - I've always wondered why diabetics weren't put on a very low carb diet.

11 posted on 01/05/2012 7:59:52 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Congress touched me inappropriately, they should be put on administrative leave immediately)
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Nutritional Myths, Distortions, and Lies
That Will Destroy Your Health

http://www.biblelife.org/myths.htm


12 posted on 01/05/2012 8:00:09 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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I think that's true. That's the underlying premise of the South Beach diet.

Another problem with carbohydrates is that most grains consumed in the US are processed and convert quickly to sugar. With whole grains, the process is slower, so you don't get the sugar spikes.

Both my mother and grandmother had diabetes. When my mother came to live with us, she had been diabetic for at least 20 years. Her sugar would spike as high as 350 in the nursing home. After a month living with us, her sugar levels were at near normal levels. The visiting nurse wished I could go and cook for all of her diabetic patients. When she went to her doctor and he ran the test that gives sugar levels for the previous six months (I'm still not sure how that works). The doctor was amazed - my mother was on the low side of normal instead of being off the chart on the high end.

14 posted on 01/05/2012 8:01:25 AM PST by Kipp
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We need sugars to be slowly realeased into the blood. When there is a spike in blood sugar it triggers fat storage.

Acids such as vitamin “c” and vinegar help to regulate blood sugar.

That is what I have taken from my research.


17 posted on 01/05/2012 8:03:19 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: Brookhaven

Yes, carbohydrates are indeed a form of sugar.


20 posted on 01/05/2012 8:04:45 AM PST by Jemian
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Yes, but it’s a bit more complicated than that.
Here’s a start ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid_cycle


21 posted on 01/05/2012 8:05:05 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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I just watched this movie the other day, check it out. It goes into detail about insulin and sugar, animal fat Vs. Vegetable fat and how the current “science” regarding cholesterol is bogus and based on politics.

http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/about/


22 posted on 01/05/2012 8:10:04 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: Brookhaven

Also look into “Glycemic Index”, a measure of how fast carbohydrates are broken down to release glucose into the blood stream. For the most part, slower is better. This is why brown rice, whole grains and nuts are better carbs than white bread, white rice and twinkies.


24 posted on 01/05/2012 8:13:12 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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There is a quantitative difference in the glycemic index between refined carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates. While all carbohydrates are processed by the body into sugar, complex carbohydrates contain substantial fiber preventing the spike in blood sugar as the fiber is eliminated as undigestible.
Refined carbohydrates, on the other hand, are readily digestible into sugars, predominantly glucose, resulting in the pancreas churning out more insulin.
Beans, wholemeals (such as steel-cut oats), whole grains are complex carbohydrates that have substantial amounts of fiber that do good things for your pancreas, arteries and digestive tract. Here’s a good resource:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/carbohydrates-full-story/index.html


27 posted on 01/05/2012 8:15:41 AM PST by Pinetop
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I’ve frequently said that a baked potato is nutritionally the equivalent of an ice cream sundae, as far as getting the nutrients your body needs.

But there is one important difference between sugar and carbohydrates:

Carbohydrates are converted into sugar by the process of digestion, and thus they enter the bloodstream more gradually. Sugar enters the blood stream all at once, creating a deadly situation sometimes called, “hyperglycemia.” You’ve seen extreme hyperglycemia in diabetics, as they go into seizures. The body releases insulin into the body to remove the sugar as quickly as possible. But if a meal consists of just sugar, and not enough slower-digesting food sources, the insulin continues to remove sugar in the bloodstream even after the excess amounts have been removed. This causes the infamous “sugar crash,” and can lead to “insulin resistance,” wherein the body adapts to ignore insulin, causing wait gain and possibly diabetes.

Some carbohydrates cannot be digested at all. Like other undigestable substances, this helps keep the plumbing working. These carbohydrates include fiber, from plants, but also chitin, for animals. Chitin is the hard substance which forms the exoskeletons of shrimp, lobster, insects, spiders, etc.


30 posted on 01/05/2012 8:17:45 AM PST by dangus
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Carbs are not your friend. They all metabolize as sugar — the more complex, complete metabolize a bit more slowly. I am a musician, so this is not Lab Stuff. But my body does not tolerate sugar, so I really stay away from it, and I react to carbs just the same. I can eat bits of it but if I overdo it I always know it.

“Carbs are your friend” is, I suspect, a FAD which has passed through and is finally, mercifully, being seen for what it is.


31 posted on 01/05/2012 8:19:46 AM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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This issue is addressed in a highly informative book, “Wheat Belly,” by William Davis, MD, a cardiologist. He also has a blog at http://www.trackyourplaque.com/blog/

Also on point is Gary Taubes’ newest book, “Why We Get Fat.”


32 posted on 01/05/2012 8:20:47 AM PST by Salvey
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There is also something called “Glycemic Index”. The higher the index number, the more nearly the carbohydrate compound resembles the effects of glucose. Very complex carbohydrates, such as cellulose (the fiber in wood, for instance) can only be broken down by microbial action, then when reduced to a simpler carbohydrate, can then be digested by the enzymes and digestive juices of most vertebrate and invertebrate animal life (including human beings). A cow cannot, on her own, digest grass, which is largely cellulose fiber. The microscopic biota in the cow’s rumen can convert the cellulose into simpler sugars, which are then used as building blocks for the formation of lipids (fat) and most vitamins, and formed up in conjunction with various nitrogen compounds (urea) to form a wide array of amino acids, basis for protein formation.

Human beings, for the most part, do not have this capability, as compounds like urea are essentially biological poisons for most human body tissue. The intestinal microbes of the large intestine complete the digestive process that began with the act of chewing and passage through the stomach and the small intestine.

So far as Glycemic Index is concerned, think the more white the carbohydrate source is, the higher the index. White sugar, white flour, white potatoes, and white rice are all very high, while the carbohydrates in dark-colored grains, fruits and vegetables have a much lower Glycemic Index.

And there are tables that already have much of this information.


35 posted on 01/05/2012 8:21:58 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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The fact is that complex carbohydrates come in forms that our bodies metabolize differently. So, it should come as no surprise that when you eat a potato your blood sugar does not skyrocket immediately. Starch is not equal to glucose; your body knows this and responds accordingly. If you want to lose weight in an effective manner, you cannot take in excessive low complexity carbs — make your body work to break it down, that is the key.

As a side note, if you want to burn more calories and don’t want to put in the work, then you should eat less; the math is not hard. Alternatively, you will burn ~15% more calories/day by simply putting your feet in ice water for 10 min. It may be uncomfortable, but the thermogenic effects are systemic and REAL!


37 posted on 01/05/2012 8:23:50 AM PST by 57th State
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