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Children just aren’t going to know what hail is… (More Global warming propaganda )
watts up with that? ^ | January 9, 2012 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 01/09/2012 2:11:22 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Source of title inspiration here

From NOAA Headquarters.

Colorado mountain hail may disappear in a warmer future

NOAA-led study shows less hail, more rain in region’s future, with possible increase in flood risk

Summertime hail such as this, which fell in Boulder, could all but disappear from the eastern flank of Colorado’s Rocky Mountains by 2070, according to a new modeling study by scientists from NOAA and several other institutions. Credit: Will von Dauster, NOAA

Summertime hail could all but disappear from the eastern flank of Colorado’s Rocky Mountains by 2070, according to a new modeling study by scientists from NOAA and several other institutions.

Less hail damage could be good news for gardeners and farmers, said Kelly Mahoney, Ph.D., lead author of the study and a postdoctoral scientist at NOAA’s Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colo. But a shift from hail to rain can also mean more runoff, which could raise the risk of flash floods, she said.

“In this region of elevated terrain, hail may lessen the risk of flooding because it takes a while to melt,” Mahoney said. “Decision makers may not want to count on that in the future.”

For the new study, published this week in the journal Nature Climate Change, Mahoney and her colleagues used “downscaling” modeling techniques to try to understand how climate change might affect hail-producing weather patterns across Colorado.

The research focused on storms involving relatively small hailstones (up to pea-sized) on Colorado’s Front Range, a region that stretches from the foothill communities of Colorado Springs, Denver and Fort Collins up to the Continental Divide. Colorado’s most damaging hailstorms tend to occur further east and involve larger hailstones not examined in this study.

In the summer on the Front Range, precipitation commonly falls as hail above an elevation of 7,500 feet. Decision makers concerned about the safety of mountain dams and flood risk have been interested in how climate change may affect the amount and nature of precipitation in the region.

Mahoney and her colleagues began exploring that question with results from two existing climate models that assumed that levels of climate-warming greenhouse gases will continue to increase in the future (for instance, carbon dioxide, which is at about 390 parts per million today, increases in the model to 620 ppm by 2070).

But the weather processes that form hail – thunderstorm formation, for example – occur on much smaller scales than can be reproduced by global climate models. So the team “downscaled” the global model results twice: first to regional-scale models that can take regional topography and other details into account (this step was completed as part of the National Center for Atmospheric Research’s North American Regional Climate Change Assessment Program). Then, the regional results were further downscaled to weather-scale models that can simulate the details of individual storms and even the in-cloud processes that create hail.

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Finally, the team compared the hailstorms of the future (2041-2070) to those of the past (1971-2000) as captured by the same sets of downscaled models. Results were similar in experiments with both climate models.

“We found a near elimination of hail at the surface,” Mahoney said.

In the future, increasingly intense storms may actually produce more hail inside clouds, the team found. However, because those relatively small hailstones fall through a warmer atmosphere, they melt quickly, falling as rain at the surface or evaporating back into the atmosphere. In some regions, simulated hail fell through an additional 1,500 feet (~450 meters) of above-freezing air in the future, compared to the past.

The research team also found evidence that extreme precipitation events across all of Colorado may become more extreme in the future, while changes in hail patterns may depend on hailstone size — results that are being explored in more detail in ongoing work.

Mahoney’s postdoctoral research was supported by the PACE program (Postdocs Applying Climate Expertise) administered by the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research and funded by NOAA, the Bureau of Reclamation and the Western Water Assessment. PACE connects young climate scientists with real-world problems such as those faced by water resource managers.

“With climate change, we are examining potential changes in the magnitude and character of precipitation at high elevations,” said John England, Ph.D., flood hydrology specialist at the Bureau of Reclamation in Denver, Colo. “The Bureau of Reclamation will now take these scientific results and determine any implications for its facilities in the Front Range of Colorado.”

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Co-authors of the new paper, “Changes in hail and flood risk in high-resolution simulations over the Colorado Mountains,” include Michael Alexander (NOAA/Earth System Research Laboratory); Gregory Thompson (National Center for Atmospheric Research) and Joseph Barsugli and James Scott (NOAA/Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, CIRES).



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climategate; climategate2; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 01/09/2012 2:11:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...

fyi


2 posted on 01/09/2012 2:12:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Having once lived out there in the “hail belt”, and having had cars beat to crap by it, I can live in a world without hail. The little darlings can read about it in books.


3 posted on 01/09/2012 2:19:17 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hail causes a lot of damage.


4 posted on 01/09/2012 2:19:54 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: bigbob; nuconvert
From the comments:

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TFNJ says:

January 9, 2012 at 8:39 am

The UK Met Office followed up their Barbecue Summer forecast of a few years ago with a statement that UK children will never see snow again. Being arse over tit once is excusable (if not allowable for earning bonuses), but twice running?

Like this study, it all depended on the output of other climate forecasts. Why can’t they just take Phil Jones’ word for it – global temperatures stopped rising in 1995, but CO2 levels have not. “A travesty”, as Kevin Trenberth puts it, but true.

5 posted on 01/09/2012 2:31:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We should be so lucky!


6 posted on 01/09/2012 2:35:29 PM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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7 posted on 01/09/2012 2:37:13 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: bigbob

Have souvenirs of ping pong ball hail on my truck hood.
It also ripped the seat cover of my motorcycle.

Why would anyone complain about hail not falling?


8 posted on 01/09/2012 2:39:47 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wait, if it starts raining a lot in Colorado, the Rio Grande may become a river again instead of a creek.


9 posted on 01/09/2012 2:48:51 PM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hail destroys crops, damages buildings and cars and hurts people. I would have thought liberals would want to ban it if they could.


10 posted on 01/09/2012 2:52:57 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; grey_whiskers; ApplegateRanch; Whenifhow; WL-law; Berlin_Freeper; Horusra; ...
Thanx for the ping Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

11 posted on 01/09/2012 2:58:17 PM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
according to a new modeling study by scientists from NOAA and several other institutions.

I suppose these clowns have never heard of GIGO? Computer programs can only be as smart as the programmers.
Judging by the East Anglia Fraud and Fiasco, there ain't much "smart" there,

12 posted on 01/09/2012 3:06:50 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
said like that's a bad thing... my brandy new 88 Beretta-GT got a nice dent in the hood before it was even three months old
13 posted on 01/09/2012 3:10:06 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good grief! Some of the worst flooding along the Front Range comes in the form of hail storms. Here is but one of hundreds of videos on Youtube...

Hail Storm Floods Fort Collins Colorado - June 7, 2009

14 posted on 01/09/2012 3:25:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Global warming? Hail no!


15 posted on 01/09/2012 3:25:42 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I was always under the impression that hail was associated with severe thunderstorms. However, in geological history we’ve been warmer and colder than we are now. Earth will muddle through, as it always has.


16 posted on 01/09/2012 3:29:26 PM PST by jmcenanly (Things will be better in 2013)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Everything these groups predict make up they are wrong on. Who in the world still believes these people? They should rename themselves the NHBOSTHOOP. Nuts Hell Bent On Scaring The Hell Out Of People.
17 posted on 01/09/2012 3:33:10 PM PST by Trillian
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yep, a kid hasn’t LIVED until he’s been smacked on the head by a golf-ball sized chunk of ice!


18 posted on 01/09/2012 3:38:19 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great, if the pattern persists with these alarmist predictions, we are about to have a bad year of hail storms....

...which will, of course, be attributed to global warming.


19 posted on 01/09/2012 3:39:03 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Summertime hail such as this, which fell in Boulder, could all but disappear from the eastern flank of Colorado’s Rocky Mountains by 2070, according to a new modeling study by scientists from NOAA and several other institutions."

Yeah right. Just like the so called scientist in the UK that claimed a few years back the kids would not know what snow looked like. Meanwhile they are being ravaged by hard winter snow storms of lately. The jokes go on. The grant money and pay checks continue.
20 posted on 01/09/2012 4:05:34 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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