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Bus Confrontation Caught on Video in Bellflower
NBC Los Angeles ^ | January 11, 2012 | Kim Baldonado

Posted on 01/11/2012 11:27:08 AM PST by Altariel

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Thank you, Mr. Green! You are a hero.
1 posted on 01/11/2012 11:27:19 AM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Isn’t the new mantra “If you see something, say something?”


2 posted on 01/11/2012 11:35:18 AM PST by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: Altariel

LA County Sheriffs tend to recruit a lot of lowlifes, not the least of which is Sheriff Lee Baca.


3 posted on 01/11/2012 11:36:17 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Altariel

At first I thought two buses were fighting.


4 posted on 01/11/2012 11:37:42 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Altariel

Well hell, at least they didn’t shoot the dog. Oh yeah, there was no dog. Good thing for the dogs ‘cause sure as shootin’ if one had been around they would’ve been shot.

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5 posted on 01/11/2012 12:13:39 PM PST by flatfish
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To: Altariel

These things are always reported out of context.

It looks to me like the deputies are being very patient with the lady while she verbally abuses them with curse words bleeped out and finally they take appropriate action to stop her and are still very careful in the apprehension and the arrest.

The context, I would speculate, is that the bus driver called the police perhaps because of a history with this lady being disruptive before.

Also, as the poster above noted, a stroller full of pillows might make some people uncomfortable in these “see something, say something” times we live in.

Does she have a right to make life uncomfortable for the people around her? The L.A. area has too many “mentally ill” crazy people and folks are tired of being held hostage to their threatening (and often outright violent) behavior.


6 posted on 01/11/2012 12:29:40 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: Altariel

People who work for the government have rights. The people the government works for, eh, not so much.


7 posted on 01/11/2012 12:36:18 PM PST by AnTiw1
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To: La Enchiladita
The context, I would speculate, is that the bus driver called the police perhaps because of a history with this lady being disruptive before.

All assumption you could as easily assume that the deputies just wanted to hassle her. If they are not arresting her then she does not have to get off the bus.

Also, as the poster above noted, a stroller full of pillows might make some people uncomfortable in these “see something, say something” times we live in.

Being uncomfortable is not a reason to allow police brutality or illegal restraint or searches. If being uncomfortable is a valid reason then the country is too far gone and there will be a civil war. Verbal abuse is not reason enough to strike someone.

Does she have a right to make life uncomfortable for the people around her?

Just like you and I have no right not to be offended no one has the right not to be uncomfortable.

8 posted on 01/11/2012 12:55:51 PM PST by Ratman83
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To: La Enchiladita

They are not supposed to respond to insults with force. Unless the passenger grabbed the male deputy’s genitals or went for his weapon - no excuse. He had his hand on her arm; the female deputy had her hand on the passenger’s shoulder; I didn’t see any sudden motion of the passenger’s arm. He just let go of her arm and punched her.

Pillows? If this woman is mentally ill, developmentally disabled or homeless, she probably travels with her pillows. If she’s not leaving them behind, she’s no more suspicious than anyone with travelling with their baggage. “DHS, there’s a crazy-looking fat lady here with some pillows? I’m worried about a foam and feather attack?”

If she’s non-threatening (quiet and polite) she has every right to ride that bus, and I’d have no problem riding with her. If she smells, I’d go upwind.


9 posted on 01/11/2012 1:00:15 PM PST by heartwood
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How can YOU assume the “the deputies just wanted to hassle her?” They do not routinely board public buses without being called. The stroller lady was the one acting up, not the deputies.

And look at how quickly you allege “police brutality” when there is no evidence of such in the video.

Please tell me about the society you envision where we have no law enforcement.


10 posted on 01/11/2012 1:02:23 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: heartwood

As I said, you don’t know the context. The bus driver could have had a history with the lady. They’re out there several hours a day and become familiar with the clientele. Something may have occurred on a previous bus trip the same day.

The video doesn’t give you before and after, and it is an all-too-typical “gotcha” which local media loves to air, especially the most leftist of all, the NBC station. They want us all to become judge and jury without knowing the facts.


11 posted on 01/11/2012 1:12:15 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: La Enchiladita
How can YOU assume the “the deputies just wanted to hassle her?” It is just like you saying that they were called by the bus driver, an assumption. Just as I stated in my comment.

Striking the women was police brutality. If I just hit someone then I commit a crime, for police it is called police brutality.

12 posted on 01/11/2012 1:12:38 PM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

Leo Terrell, is that you?


13 posted on 01/11/2012 1:18:33 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Manuel Ramos, is that you?


14 posted on 01/11/2012 1:20:19 PM PST by Ratman83
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To: La Enchiladita

Maybe the bus driver did call the cops. Maybe every time there’s a red light she takes out her watch and if they stop for more than sixty seconds she pisses in her seat.

But I did not see her do anything that would justify that punch. Maybe her left hand did something we didn’t see but if it didn’t, no excuse. I’ve gotten cursed and called names doing my job - I don’t get to punch anyone for it.

And the deputies threatening Jermaine Green and telling him he had to give up his cell? The department spokesman saying there are no plans to use that video in the mandatory investigation? That doesn’t make the sheriff’s department look like it knows it’s on the side of truth and justice here.


15 posted on 01/11/2012 1:22:43 PM PST by heartwood
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To: Ratman83

You make me uncomfortable. Get to the back of the bus.


16 posted on 01/11/2012 1:26:06 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Ah, the ongoing criminal conspiracy that is Los Angeles Law Enforcement. A lot of lowlifes about sums it up.
17 posted on 01/11/2012 1:42:10 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Typical of you to come in and paint all law enforcement with a broad brush.

When you slander ALL of Los Angeles law enforcement, you are also slandering HUNDREDS of military veterans and active duty military officers. May I assume that you are also anti-U.S. military?


18 posted on 01/11/2012 1:55:39 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: La Enchiladita
I am a veteran of the U.S. Air Force.

L.A. Law Enforcement is notorious for being among the worst municipal police departments in the USA in terms of corruption and criminality.

And boot licking slime who circle the wagons around corrupt Police who beat women in public and try to steal the evidence of it don't help the situation.

19 posted on 01/11/2012 1:59:51 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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I am a veteran of the U.S. Air Force.

What does that mean exactly? What did you do in the Air Force?

As usual, it seems you have some kind of grudge due to an experience or two you have personally had with law enforcement. It seems to be a personal thing for you.

20 posted on 01/11/2012 2:05:10 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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