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Urination Excitation! (Are the Marines Being Set Up?)
self | 1/13/2012 | LS

Posted on 01/13/2012 6:04:20 AM PST by LS

Edited on 01/13/2012 6:21:44 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The buzz today is Drudge's headline, "P@$$ed" and the associated Wapo blog

Most Freepers know that I'm as far from a conspiracy theorist as one gets. But this seems too convenient. You have:

a president whose polling is tanking, whose re-elect is deeply in trouble, and whose policies cannot possibly improve things in the next eight months;

a president who despises the military (there is a new book out by Michael Hastings, The Operators, reporting that Obama in Baghdad didn't want to shake any more soldiers' hands or sign books http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/book-depicts-cranky-obama-on-baghdad-visit;

a president who desperately wants out of Afghanistan and Iraq and who has refused to take the recommendations of his senior generals;

and now, out of nowhere, a video of Marines "desecrating" the bodies of Taliban killers suddenly appears. (For the record, I seem to recall Patton urinating in the Rhine and it was cheered by the press. Also, for the record, I seem to recall Taliban/al-Qaeda types actually cutting off the heads of living Americans, and I'm supposed to get upset by urinating on the dead body of an enemy? Sorry, gotta meditate on that one).

Also for the record, to me the video is extremely staged. The bodies are neatly positioned, the Marines lined up, and obviously this wasn't spur-of-the-moment passion, er, erupting. At the end, the photographer apparently says, "Is that it?" So the video was meant to be released.

As I say, I'm no conspiracy theorist, but for an administration desperate to be hailed for something positive and desperate to radically reduce the size of the military, this little incident seems tailor made.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; marines; marinespissed; obama
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1 posted on 01/13/2012 6:04:24 AM PST by LS
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To: LS

Doh, I’m still inept at posting links. Can someone clean up the two links for me, pretty-please?


2 posted on 01/13/2012 6:05:35 AM PST by LS
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To: LS

Is the date the video was made public knowledge yet? How old is it?

Has it been in the wings, waiting for an operative to spring to the MSM?


3 posted on 01/13/2012 6:08:58 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Good points. They are acting as though it just came out.


4 posted on 01/13/2012 6:11:11 AM PST by LS
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To: LS

Report abuse on yourself and tell the mod what you would like done.


5 posted on 01/13/2012 6:11:34 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: LS
Maybe the marines were paid by a liberal to do that.
Might sound preposterous, but who would be so stupid to video it and put it up on Youtube, if they aren't against the Military?
6 posted on 01/13/2012 6:12:23 AM PST by Fawn (Confused in Floriduh.)
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To: freedumb2003

Thank you.


7 posted on 01/13/2012 6:12:24 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs


http://www.buzzfeed.com

8 posted on 01/13/2012 6:12:37 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: LS

And some of us remember American bodies being hung from bridges.


9 posted on 01/13/2012 6:13:27 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: LS
WaPo blog
Book Depicts Cranky Obama On Baghdad Visit
10 posted on 01/13/2012 6:13:56 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: justa-hairyape

No kidding.


11 posted on 01/13/2012 6:14:41 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
(Are the Marines Being Set Up?)

One can believe that since the lame-stream media loves and adores our Nation's Military they only have their best interests for our Nation and Nation's Military in their hearts. {Dripping sarcasm}

The lame-stream would never offer aid and comfort to America's enemies. That has never happened, and there are no instances which can be referenced. {more Dripping sarcasm}

Our Nation's lame-stream media has been more than lame-stream, or Drive-By, as Rush coined. Saddened by the lame-stream leaving NO DOUBT whose side they are truly pulling for in this war, yet no surprised.

12 posted on 01/13/2012 6:16:19 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: LS

i’m reminded of a video that came out early inthe war depicting us troops raping an arab woman. turns out to have been a porn film adn those in it were the actors. i’m wondering similar worries here...


13 posted on 01/13/2012 6:16:19 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: LS

This is why traditionally the militaty has HATED diaries and any other “archival” type devices in war. THESE GUYS WERE STUPID TO TAKE PICS OF THIS!


14 posted on 01/13/2012 6:17:08 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: LS

My only issue is that it should not have been filmed.

War is hell.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 6:17:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Fawn
Maybe the marines were paid by a liberal to do that.
There are no liberals in foxholes.
16 posted on 01/13/2012 6:18:42 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: LS
Speaking of conspiracy theories, here's mine and it's a honey: The admin's been trying to do a deal with the Taliban, has come to regret trying, and is now trying anything to get the Taliban to walk away.

Hmmmmm.....Another thought: Or Barry wants an excuse to give away the store in "negotiations", and the fallout from the pi$$ing incident provides the admin cover....

17 posted on 01/13/2012 6:18:53 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: LS
Doubt it. These guys just forgot there are video taking devices everywhere.

I would just like to know who took the video.

18 posted on 01/13/2012 6:19:42 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: cripplecreek

ditto

Yo, Marines! Got no problem with US Marine alpha males doing what alpha males do, piss on dead to mark their territory

But guys....just like Vegas! What goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas, ditto with taliban battle scenes


19 posted on 01/13/2012 6:20:50 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: LS

as ususal....its the video taping stupid!

They just KILLED these guys, so lets not talk about disrespecting the bodies.


20 posted on 01/13/2012 6:21:45 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: LS

So what? These guys are dead! Why would they care? They used to cut off the ears of Charlie too, but so what?


21 posted on 01/13/2012 6:21:58 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: LS
Being a former Marine if these guy's did this and posted it themselves they deserve whatever punishment they get. After the bad publicity caused by Abu Ghraib they should have known how this would go down. I completely understand why they did this but they should have took precautions to be sure it never got out into the public domain. Extraordinary lack of judgment!! Having said that I hope their punishment is fast and they are not judged too harshly for their mistake.
22 posted on 01/13/2012 6:22:43 AM PST by ontap
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To: justa-hairyape

No kidding and I really don’t care what these brave marines did to these despicable Muslims. I’m on the side of the marines. Too bad they didn’t dump pig blood on them.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 6:23:54 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: cripplecreek
My only issue is that it should not have been filmed. War is hell.,

I don't understand what the issue is? They didn't smear pig fat on them.
24 posted on 01/13/2012 6:24:11 AM PST by Misplaced Texan (July 4, 2009 - the first day of the 2nd Revolution!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

We have become a nation of sissies. We are doomed. Seriously.

It’s only a matter of time.


25 posted on 01/13/2012 6:24:32 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: LS

The thought I’m mulling in the back of my mind is that Obama is using Afghanistan to get rid of the patriotic troops, either by death, injuries, or demoralization.

The most telling moment, I think, was when Obama’s people wanted to apologize for bombing Hiroshima and Japan wouldn’t let them. The thing the terrorists/Islamists want more than anything is a protracted war where the opposition views it as immoral to actually kill first before the enemy kills you. The free world could turn the Islamic world into glass and be done with it. Instead, we’re letting grown men use their women and children as human shields so that they - and we - can die slow, painful deaths while an Islam (that is hell-bent on terrorizing the whole world into becoming Muslim) spreads all over the world.

We talk about Chamberlain’s appeasement of Hitler, and rightly say that appeasement only fuels bullies. Well, Islam is by its very nature a bully bent on domination through violent means and the suppression of anybody who has a free, independent thought. It’s Hitler on steroids. If it was OK to take out Germany and anybody who sided with Germany, then why is it not OK to take out the Islamists and anybody who sides with them? Because Islam calls itself a “religion” they’re untouchable? Murderous tyrants are OK as long as they claim to be doing it for God?

I think we need to think long and hard about the enemies we face and get serious about facing them.


26 posted on 01/13/2012 6:24:52 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: justa-hairyape

Too bad it wasn’t pig urine.


27 posted on 01/13/2012 6:25:56 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: cuban leaf

I think you’re exactly right.


28 posted on 01/13/2012 6:26:56 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: LS

Soldiers have been desecrating bodies of dead enemy since the spear and shield were the weapons of choice. America did not invent bad behavior by soldiers , but as with slavery, America seems to get the rap, thanks to our media.
This sort of behavior is not the norm for Marines, and for America. Like Beck says, “America is Great, because America is Good”. We’re the country that rescues our enemy from the hands of pirates, for Christ sake.

I could honestly care less what they did to the bodies in private, but what were they thinking breaking out the video camera? Did they not realize how fast that little video would spread around the globe and what consequences that would lead too? What the heck were they thinking? When I was in the service they always reminded us when we were on foreign soil, that we were American ambassadors. What the people see in us when they come in contact, is how they will perceive Americans for the rest of their lives. When a few knuckleheads take it on their own put this on video for the whole world to see, they are doing great damage to America’s image. The Image us soldiers and sailors of the past tried so hard to build. And at the worse this could lead to a retaliation that is to horrific to imagine.

You may or may not agree with my commentary, but this proud veteran stands by it.


29 posted on 01/13/2012 6:27:28 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: cripplecreek

Maybe if the Rules of engagement allowed them prosecute a War
instead of presenting themselves as ready targets for the America Hating Muslims ... but the point is well put—the idiot who filmed it —ought share a cell with Manning.


30 posted on 01/13/2012 6:28:02 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

IF the photographer said “Is that it?” at the end the photographer was working with the people who did the pissing, who wanted the video to exist.


31 posted on 01/13/2012 6:28:10 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: LS

I’m disappointed they didn’t take a s**t on them.


32 posted on 01/13/2012 6:28:42 AM PST by jrp
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To: jrp
That would have won over the occupy hobos.

Seriously it's time for sensible Americans to start simply responding to every single thing liberals complain about (and that's all liberals ever do is complain) is two simple words:

"SO WHAT?"


33 posted on 01/13/2012 6:33:30 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (sarcasm))
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To: justa-hairyape
Let's not forget set on fire and dragged through the streets. These soldiers just went through a fire fight for who knows how long. Sometimes you have to vent. This is a set up! Photobucket
34 posted on 01/13/2012 6:37:07 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: StonyBurk

We sacrificed so much in Iraq, to win the hearts and minds. We got the Sunnis and Shiites to at least somewhat work together against terrorists. We got people craving justice rather than for their side to win.

And then we told the terrorists when we were gonna leave, left then when t was too early, and handed the whole place over to Iran.

What could be more demoralizing to the soldiers who have seen their brothers in the field sacrifice life, limb, and their own marriages to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis right before handing them over to the Iranian mullahs?

If we’re not there to achieve victory then what is the point of even being there? As you say - unless we are willing to do what it takes to win, we’re just there as ready targets.

And that’s why I wonder if Obama is using Afghanistan to get rid of the patriotic military force that alone would resist his own coup here in the USA.


35 posted on 01/13/2012 6:37:07 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: LS

Several months ago, there were some news articles about US military urinating on dead bodies.

Is this the same incident or a new one?

CAIR is notorious for trying to stir up trouble. They have been trying to claim hate crimes against Muslims for years, but only had a few cases that even seem close. But, they keep trying.

Also, recall some faked videos of British military (IIRC) several years ago in Iraq.

Per one report I heard, at least one of the guys in this current video has been located and has been out of the military for a while.


36 posted on 01/13/2012 6:37:23 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: cripplecreek

I agree


37 posted on 01/13/2012 6:39:32 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: US Navy Vet

If one takes pix or video, chances are 99.999999999999999% they will end up on the Internet at some point.

But, people still take pix and video and act surprised and shocked when such pix/video end up on a news channel or the Internet.


38 posted on 01/13/2012 6:40:28 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: LS

Just tell the NEA they were trying to create art but didn’t have a cross and a mason jar.


39 posted on 01/13/2012 6:41:57 AM PST by mnehring
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To: LS
Meanwhile, click here for the results of a Google news search using the words Taliban and deal.

Interesting reading.

40 posted on 01/13/2012 6:42:17 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: LS

I have no problem with this...as long as they washed their hands afterwards.


41 posted on 01/13/2012 6:42:55 AM PST by Daffynition (*Pray for whatever passes for America these days* Amen. ~ ScottinVA)
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To: cripplecreek
My only issue is that it should not have been filmed.

War is hell.


I was rather surprised that that was Geraldo's take on F&F this morning. He is usually one of the bleeding-hearts.

Of course, we are still to hear from Senator Lindsey Graham who was bawling about the atrocities [panties on heads, oh the huge manate] at Abu Ghraib. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a tearful and enraged Graham on camera soon.
42 posted on 01/13/2012 6:43:55 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
Urination Excitation! (Are the Marines Being Set Up?)

Wasn't Barry who was talking about people getting wee-wee'd up?
43 posted on 01/13/2012 6:45:15 AM PST by aruanan
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To: LS

This is terrible, what kind of a creep takes pictures of people taking a leak!


44 posted on 01/13/2012 6:47:42 AM PST by Ditter
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To: TomGuy

If he’s been out of the military for a while then this video is old. Leading to the question of why it’s popping up now.

I wonder if it’s related to a GA judge requiring the HDOH to produce Obama’s original BC as well as the microfilm roll having Obama’s BC - and requiring Obama to produce his social security, passport, birth, citizenship, and college records. There is supposed to be a hearing in HI today where the HI Deputy AG is going to argue that HI doesn’t have to obey a subpoena from GA, which is contempt of court.

Last time the eligibility issue got heated Obama dumped a very bad forgery on us and then before the truth could get its shoes tied he filled the world with Bin Laden assassination stuff - including details about the SEALS that the SEALS themselves were saying could jeopardize their operations, staged photos of events that didn’t really happen, DNA “results” that existed before any test could have been done, refusals to disclose any proof that Bin Laden had actually been killed, and ultimately the retaliatory deaths of dozens of SEALS from the same unit as had done the alleged assassination.

I have no doubts - none - that Obama will use our troops for his own toilet paper, just like he used Agent Brian Terry for his own toilet paper - “collateral damage” in his quest for his own political agenda of destroying America.

If pissing on the dead is wrong, then let’s court-martial Barack Hussein Obama, because he’s been pissing on both the living and the dead for some time now, for his own amusement and agenda.


45 posted on 01/13/2012 6:48:17 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: LS
Don't forget the media byline stories yesterday explaining how we, as an Country, have lost our compassion and need to check ourselves if we didn't think there was a problem with the photo or actions of the Marines. Once again, the media presumptively telling us how to feel. Why not? They're also telling us who to vote for, aren't they?
48 posted on 01/13/2012 6:49:16 AM PST by liberalh8ter (I don't like what the world has become....)
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To: LS

These are the things the Left does to try and emasculate the US military.


49 posted on 01/13/2012 6:51:53 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: mnehring
LOL. Good one.

BTW, Feb. 2 is groundhog day and also the State of the Union speech.

In one case you have an insignificant little creature pontificating about the future and the other is a ground hog and his shadow.

50 posted on 01/13/2012 6:53:19 AM PST by LS
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