need advice on tracing a person...Deadbeats gypped mother

02/03/12 | charlespg

[Charlespg]

Do any freepers know of any reputable online background/trace checks

[mardi59]

Intelius.com

[Kenny500c]

Since they were technically the “owners” I don’t think they could be charged with theft.

[Mr. K]

ALWAYS ask for references- the bad ones will not even come back to give you any - the good ones will, but you dont even need to check them

also - send a certifed letter marked for them to return the letter to you WITH a forwarding address ( marked “return service requeted” ) it costs 75 cents extra I think

If they are running from the law though, I doubt they filed a forwarding address with the post office

[tajgirvan]

Bookmarked.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Similar thing happened to me …

Sold a property … 2005 Palm Harbor triple-wide on 3+ acres … I held the mortgage.

Received a hefty down payment and several months of mortgage payments.

Then payments stopped.

Hired a real estate attorney. After third missing mortgage payment, we filed for foreclosure.

The day before the foreclosure hearing, the guy filed for bankruptcy.

The civil proceeding (foreclosure) was immediately halted. Hired a bankruptcy attorney. Waited nine months until the guy failed to abide to the payment schedule that was set up for him by the bankruptcy court, resulting in his case being dismissed.

Back to civil court … then, the day before the 2nd scheduled hearing, he filed for bankruptcy again! Another nine months of waiting, until they dismissed it for his failure to abide to payment schedule.

For the third time the foreclosure hearing was scheduled … and true to form, for the 3rd time, he filed for bankruptcy! This time the bankruptcy court refused him!

Foreclosure hearing was held and foreclosure sale was set. I was allowed by the court to bid up to the amount that was owed to me. No one bid higher and I got ownership back.

Meanwhile, the guy and his family were living in the house all this time! Over time I watched as they dismantled and removed a shed from the property and there was nothing I could do about it. I watched the 4-board fencing disappear and I could do nothing about it. Of course, he was also trashing the inside of the house during this period of time.

On the day he finally moved out (almost three years from the beginning of my actions against him) he loaded my 5-ton A/C unit and my refrigerator onto his trailer! I called the sheriff … there was nothing they could do … I’d have to take him to civil court (lol).

That night, although the power was turned off, there was a mysterious fire near the power box. Luckily the house didn’t burn down. I had to replace the wiring and make other repairs.

I also had to pay three years’ worth of back taxes. He had several code violations that I had to correct, and he had two liens. The lien holders tried to come after me without success.

My advice is: forget about finding the deadbeats … file for foreclosure and get the property back asap.

[babygene]

If there’s just junk laying around, why tear it down? floors and walls can be resurfaced a lot cheaper than new construction and the old construction is better anyway.

[Outlaw Woman]

… file for foreclosure and get the property back asap.

Yeah...that seemed to work out so well for you.

[Alice in Wonderland]

Charlespg stated the house is now vacant. I doubt that the former owners/tenants will appear in court for a foreclosure hearing. Thus, he would automatically win the case.

It took a while but I got my property back. I fixed it up, and sold it at a profit last year.

Are you suggesting that I should have handled the situation differently?

What would you have done?

[Outlaw Woman]

No...it just struck me as ironic that you would advise him to get his property back asap after just telling the hair-raising tale of what you went through and how it took three years to get it done. Sorry.

The laws (and loopholes) are all geared toward the lowest common denominator. It's very difficult for land lords to kick someone out. It's against the law here in Missouri, to shut off the utilities. I was surprised to see that you had done that with no repercussions.

I don't believe 40-45 years ago landlords had any problems. You didn't pay?....you didn't stay and you would be removed one way or the other.

Congratulations though on finally getting things lined out and selling at a profit. You deserved it after what you went through!

btw...never heard of a triple wide.?

[Alice in Wonderland]

I didn't turn off his power, the utility company did for non-payment. He was running an extension cord to a neighboring property for electricity and a hose to their well for water.

He now resides in the hoosegow:

*OBTAINING OR ATTEMPTING TO OBTAIN A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE BY FRAUD * TAMPERING WITH A WITNESS, VICTIM OR INFORMANT * BATTERY ON ELDERLY PERSON * BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE * FIRST DEGREE PETIT THEFT * THIRD DEGREE GRAND THEFT

[Outlaw Woman]

What a winner.