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FIRST PERSON: When to Say "Yes" and When to Say "No" to Panhandlers
Berkeley Daily Planet ^ | 2/22/12 | Jack Bragen

Posted on 02/22/2012 1:07:59 PM PST by SmithL

Panhandling has always been an important part of human existence, ever since people were put in poverty by a society that sometimes lacks mercy. It is not fair or accurate to say that you should never give money to a panhandler. There are people who would perish without the generosity of strangers. We can not presume to know that they created their own problems and should reap the results. There are plenty of people who became poor largely due to circumstances that weren't under their control.

I have given coins out of my pocket to panhandlers under certain circumstances, and sometimes not, when I felt that it would jeopardize me or someone to do so. I have compiled a guide that works for me concerning when I give a few coins in my pocket or not. Since I rarely carry cash except for these few coins which serve as meter money or candy bar money, I am not in a situation of getting my wallet out.

To begin with, since I am a smoker I get asked for cigarettes a lot. However, many of those who ask me for one look like they could possibly be underage. In these instances, I always refuse. (I do not have to give a reason.) On the other hand, if someone appears close to my age and also does not appear to be an undercover cop, I will often give someone a smoke when asked. For those who believe that smoking is a horrendous evil, just ignore this part of the manuscript.

When someone is holding a sign at a freeway off ramp, I drive by without helping that person. I send that person good thoughts. However, I do not want to create a hazardous situation that could cause a car accident. You are not doing anyone a favor when you block traffic to give to a panhandler, especially when this causes a car accident that could entail someone getting injured.

Is someone appears threatening to me, I do not give help. This is entirely by my perception and does not rely on an attempt at objectivity. If I feel threatened, it is bad for me to help the person who is associated with that feeling, even if it is only in my own mind. I will remain polite to that person and will speak respectfully, but will not give money in return for intimidation. (Of course this idea does not include the IRS.) How do you know if someone is truly threatening you? Often you don't know and must operate by what feels real from your own limited perspective. If someone is exchanging threat for cash, it is not a gift, it is extortion. This is a bully-ism and is a different idea than the threat of a crime being perpetrated, which I cover next.

If it is late at night, if the situation seems scary, or if you think you could be a victim of robbery or violence, then you must do whatever works in that situation. Usually that entails getting some distance as quickly as possible, and doing so without increasing your vulnerability-which getting out your wallet or getting close to a person would do. I was in front of a Macy's at a mall when three gentlemen who appeared to be sporting a tough guy fashion, (you know, the goatees and scarves over the heads) approached me and one of them said, "Give it up." Rather than standing there waiting for them to get closer, I quickly stood from the bench (where I had been reading) and ran into the Macy's so that anything that would happen would be recorded by their security cameras. The three followed me in but then realized they were among Macy's shoppers, and they proceeded to look like idiots, and then they left.

A few years ago, I was in front of a McDonald's and had just bought a couple of hamburgers, when a man begged for help and said that he was starving to death and had problems with his blood sugar. I handed my hamburger to that man. He was quite grateful.

When I am on foot, and in public where everything feels safe, and someone asks for spare change in a respectful way (they do not need to humiliate themselves or beg, they just need to be polite) I will give that person whatever change is in my pocket, which might total less than a dollar, or which could be a couple dollars. If I had more income and if I carried cash more often, I would give more. In addition to the change I am offering, I am giving the message of unconditional love. This does something to better the human condition.


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Of course, in Beserkeley, it is always OK to say "Yes" with someone else's money.
1 posted on 02/22/2012 1:08:05 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

ping for later.


2 posted on 02/22/2012 1:10:51 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: SmithL

Even though I pinged for later, I had to say “Good Grief” when I scanned the article.


3 posted on 02/22/2012 1:12:35 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: SmithL
There used to be no panhandlers in my home town.

But idiots started giving them money.

Now there is a market for it, so there are people there filling the ‘demand’.

Young guys with tattoos and piercings accost single working mothers for “spare change”.

I mock them and say “Spare change for my next piercing?”.

And I cannot express sufficiently my contempt of idiots who go abroad and give to blind beggar children.

Great! You just created a market for blind beggar children! And if there are not enough to fill the ‘demand’ they will CREATE some!

Wow, see how much your spare change can accomplish? You just got acid poured into a child's eyes and condemned them to a life of slavery and begging without any sight. I hope such people feel REAL PROUD of themselves for being so “charitable”. Idiots.

4 posted on 02/22/2012 1:13:43 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SmithL

This dude thinks way too much, although sadly unequipped to do so.


5 posted on 02/22/2012 1:15:51 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SmithL
Panhandling has always been an important part of human existence, ever since people were put in poverty by a society that sometimes lacks mercy.

Mind numbingly stupid opening. People are poor because of many reasons, almost never because of society. That being said, I never give money, I do give food occassionally for the very rough looking ones. Never money though, I know where it goes.

6 posted on 02/22/2012 1:17:55 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: SmithL
ever since people were put in poverty by a society that sometimes lacks mercy

Societies are neither merciless or merciful. INDIVIDUALS are. Just as individuals are responsible or irresponsible ... sometimes responsible enough to see after their own needs and sometimes not.

Not everyone who is needy is so because of irresponsibility, but he is darned sure not there because of anything I did. Therefore, I have no moral, legal, or social liability for his well-being. Anything I give, I CHOOSE to give. Anything else is simply robbery.

7 posted on 02/22/2012 1:22:00 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: SmithL

The first sentence says it all.

The natural state of humans is poverty. Prosperity is due to society.

Writer is foolish.


8 posted on 02/22/2012 1:22:53 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SmithL

I always ask “how much do you need to get the next bottle”? They always know right down to the penny.


9 posted on 02/22/2012 1:23:03 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: SmithL
ever since people were put in poverty by a society that sometimes lacks mercy

Societies are neither merciless or merciful. INDIVIDUALS are. Just as individuals are responsible or irresponsible ... sometimes responsible enough to see after their own needs and sometimes not.

Not everyone who is needy is so because of irresponsibility, but he is darned sure not there because of anything I did. Therefore, I have no moral, legal, or social liability for his well-being. Anything I give, I CHOOSE to give. Anything else is simply robbery.

10 posted on 02/22/2012 1:26:21 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: SmithL

If most people that “panhandle” spend as much time looking for a job as they did panhandling....they wouldn’t need to panhandle, because they would be employed. Even working at Taco Bell has to pay more than sitting on the side of the road all day begging for Federal Reserve Notes.


11 posted on 02/22/2012 1:27:31 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: allmendream
I'm with you. Way back in graduate school (mid 1980's), I submitted a paper on the supply side for poverty. It actually got passed around to some of the other profs in the department. Two of them, of the more liberal persuation, were highly insulted and called me before a committee to defend my research and methodology. I was allowed to select one of my choosing to be on the committee.

It was scary as hell as I had no idea of the political persuations of the profs. I took a risk on one who taught a class which I thought was fair minded. The risk paid off. Not only was I exonerated, but I ended up being commended for my courage to take on such a topic in a unique way.

This was at a state university in one of the more liberal states in America. Maybe I just got lucky.

Bottom line is that if you want to do something charitable, donate time, material or money to a reputable organization which helps the people you want to target. For example, in my case, I have a soft spot for military veterans and trust the VFW.

12 posted on 02/22/2012 1:29:40 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Aardvark111; ACK ACK; Al Koa; Angel of Beth; another_bot_for_W; ApeNipples; axe2grin...

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Per popular demand I've registered at Cabelas but, again, really not necessary.

When I was a young man (and a smoker) haunting Boylston St. I'd often bum cigs off of people walking by. One guy pulled out a pack, took one in his mouth, lit it, inhaled, exhaled, and said to me, "Sorry, I don't smoke." That's one of my favorite memories.


13 posted on 02/22/2012 1:30:01 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: allmendream

Around my vicinity within a 2 block radius of my own parish church, I NEVER give to these bums. Why? My church gives more food to them twice a week. I donate to my parish. Follow the trail..


14 posted on 02/22/2012 1:30:59 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: SmithL

—When someone is holding a sign at a freeway off ramp, I drive by without helping that person. I send that person good thoughts. However, I do not want to create a hazardous situation that could cause a car accident. You are not doing anyone a favor when you block traffic to give to a panhandler, especially when this causes a car accident that could entail someone getting injured. —

When I lived in seattle, that was my motto. Interestingly, when someone did stop to help and the light was green, I would go around them if possible. One of those people I went around mustered real road rage against me. It would have been funny (the irony and all) if it were not so serious.

Now, when someone does it, I just lay on the horn, and keep it on, until they move. But it is not an issue where I live now. That scam doesn’t exist here. Yet.


15 posted on 02/22/2012 1:31:23 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SmithL

This can’t be Berkeley, CA because it’s a violence-free, smoke-free, junk food-free utopia.


16 posted on 02/22/2012 1:31:37 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: allmendream
There used to be no panhandlers in my home town. But idiots started giving them money.

Just wondering -- if there were no panhandlers, then to whom were the idiots giving money?

One of those conundrums, I guess -- which came first, the panhandler or the idiot?

17 posted on 02/22/2012 1:35:32 PM PST by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: KoRn
Even working at Taco Bell has to pay more than sitting on the side of the road all day begging for Federal Reserve Notes.

Depends on the location. When we lived in Japan, one of their reporters went to New York and marveled at how there could be so many "Help Wanted" signs around Manhattan and so many panhandlers.

The intrepid reporter approached the panhandlers and asked them this very question. The results ranged from downright disgusting to humorous. One 30 something black guy was particularly funny. He looked at the reporter like he was daft and said "You know what you get for putting in an eight hour day at one of these places and working your a** off? Maybe 60 or 70 dollars a day by the time they take all the taxes out. Do you want somebody to own you body and soul for 60 or 70 dollars a day? Hell, I can make that kind of money in two or three hours of panhandling!"

18 posted on 02/22/2012 1:38:26 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SmithL

I never give money.

I always offer food.

Right thing to do.


19 posted on 02/22/2012 1:40:26 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: SmithL

When I see a panhandler, I see somebody who managed to piss off every relative or friend that ever cared about them. Why wouldn’t they go to them for help? Because they were too prideful, and wound up burning all of their bridges.


20 posted on 02/22/2012 1:40:38 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: SmithL

“, ever since people were put in poverty by a society that sometimes lacks mercy.”

Capitalism’s fault again!


21 posted on 02/22/2012 1:42:10 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: SmithL

99 times out of 100 I won’t give money to panhandlers. But I always make an attempt at eye contact when I refuse.


22 posted on 02/22/2012 1:43:34 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Maceman
Ok then.

The first time I saw a panhandler in my home town was when I was twelve or so, before that I had only seen them in San Francisco, Seattle and other major metropolitan areas. Apparently there wasn't much of a “market” for what he was offering and HE WENT AWAY - probably to San Francisco. For the next five years or so I saw no panhandling or panhandlers.

Then around the age of 25 or so, when I would visit, I started to see a couple of them hanging around our little ‘downtown’. People were giving them spare change for their tattoos and piercings.

Now, over a decade later, I see a dozen of them shuffling around downtown. People are giving them money - so they continue to panhandle in my small home town. If people didn't give them money - hopefully they would GO AWAY!

Back to the major metropolitan areas where the modern day “urban outdoors-man” belongs!

23 posted on 02/22/2012 1:44:38 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SmithL

A few years back, the do-goodniks in San Antonio decided to build a hundred million dollar homeless shleter.

That’s right. You read it correctly. $100,000,000.00

The homeless people don’t appreciate it. But it did accomplish one predictable goal:

It INCREASED the number of bums begging on the streets in San Antonio.


24 posted on 02/22/2012 1:46:35 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: SmithL
I do not give to panhandlers and feel no guilt about it. If everybody had the same attitude, there wouldn't be very many of them. It is only because so many people give to them that they are out there in the first place.

I often think about what I would do if I found myself in dire circumstances. In no scenario do I ever see myself standing on a street corner begging for spare change. I would take any job before begging in the street, be it working at McDonalds or pumping gas. If things were truly so bad that I could not find a job anywhere, I would probably go to the dirtiest section of town with a broom and a few trash bags and hang a sign that I am unemployed but will be cleaning up the streets and would appreciate any donations for my service. Then I'd get busy sweeping the street and filling the trash bags with litter.

I bet that approach would coax a lot of quarters and dollar bills out of passers-by and maybe even one of the local business owners will come out and personally offer me a job for my initiative.

25 posted on 02/22/2012 1:47:11 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Rick Santorum for President - 2012)
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To: SamAdams76
As long as America is still America - people like you will NEVER be homeless longterm.

This is where people around the world come for opportunity.

But some would rather stand around begging for change for their next alcohol (or other drug) fix.

26 posted on 02/22/2012 1:49:52 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: GSWarrior

And I’m just the opposite. When I’m hit up for money on the streets, I ignore them. I don’t look at them. I don’t speak to them. I just keep on walking.

I do go “on alert” in case this provokes them, but so far - so good.


27 posted on 02/22/2012 1:50:53 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: SmithL

On my last visit to my Daughters and Granddaughters in San Berdoo, Kalifornia, I would see teams of these moochers at every strip mall, 7/11, grocery store or where ever. Their clothes, although shabby, were clean, as they were. They probably live better than I do!

Several years ago they busted a guy who was pulling in two to three hundred dollars a day by holding a sign that said “WILL WORK FOR FOOD”.


28 posted on 02/22/2012 1:53:22 PM PST by Sparky21555
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To: Last Dakotan

What a great question!

My most treasured handout was to a very old Irish woman who lived on my street in New York City. I would buy her coffin nails. I can still remember her sweet “Bless you! Bless you!” as I went to catch the bus.


29 posted on 02/22/2012 1:58:18 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: KoRn
Even working at Taco Bell has to pay more than sitting on the side of the road all day begging for Federal Reserve Notes.

Actually panhandling "pays" way more than a typical low end service job. There used to be a woman who worked the street near my office. I used to feel pity for her story of homelessness, etc. until one day I saw her at the end of her "shift" putting her tattered coat into her backpack and taking out a nice coat. Then she climbed onto an expensive bicycle and drove off. Paying more attention to her I saw her buying breakfast with plenty of cash early in the AM and then doing her job for about five hours. She pulled in from 10 to 40 dollars per hour.

As for the panhandlers that aren't tricking you, you can assume whatever money you give them goes straight to the cash register at a liquor store or to the nearest crack, meth or heroin dealer. In my experience most of those folks don't want food, just money to spend on their addiction. They need real help, not cash to enable their substance abuse.

30 posted on 02/22/2012 2:00:02 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: SmithL

NEVER give money to an Obamazombie, it only encourages them.


31 posted on 02/22/2012 2:00:54 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: SmithL

NEVER give money to an Obamazombie, it only encourages them.


32 posted on 02/22/2012 2:01:11 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: SmithL

NEVER give money to an Obamazombie, it only encourages them.


33 posted on 02/22/2012 2:01:28 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: SmithL

NEVER give money to an Obamazombie, it only encourages them.


34 posted on 02/22/2012 2:01:42 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

I have no idea why it posted this 4 times.


35 posted on 02/22/2012 2:02:56 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: SmithL

Best is to carry protein bars or bags of nuts and hand them to the beggars by the sides of the road. If they are truly hungry it will help them.

I have recently seen some of these people being “dropped off” at their exit in a nice car. Nicer than mine at the time. This angered me. I am wondering if there is a big pimp style organization that uses these people and collects The money.


36 posted on 02/22/2012 2:03:45 PM PST by Yaelle (Santorum is slapping down the media with kid leather gloves and a smile.)
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To: SmithL

I only say yes if they have a good story and reality has been kind to me lately. The story has to at least make it sound like this money could put you on the path to self sufficiency, I don’t care if it’s a lie, make it sound good. Panhandlers need to understand that they’re in the business of selling a sense of goodness, the person is giving them money to feel good about themselves. So sell it well.


37 posted on 02/22/2012 2:09:39 PM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: SmithL

I don’t let panhandlers approach me. I know of a guy from a nearby town who was in Pueblo, CO walking down the sidewalk when a man approached asking for spare change. While he was distracted the beggar’s partner came up behind and hit him in the back of the head with a 2x4 and they robbed him. He is now paralyzed from the neck down. Never let strangers approach you. Years ago I was almost robbed in the lobby of the hospital in Richmond, Virginia by two guys who wanted to know the time. They grabbed my wrist and went for my watch which looked expensive but wasn’t. Just then the elevator opened next to us and they ran.


38 posted on 02/22/2012 2:22:13 PM PST by albionin
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To: SmithL

well I know I’m considered the forums resident soft assed pu$$y

i give to folks whenever the mood hits me....hungry..dope..bottle...it depends....helps if they are polite

and yes ...in the third world where i where spent 20 years....Colombia...Haiti....Sierra Leone...etc

i gave too....limbless folks....kids with open sores and swollen bellies and rickets

yep gave to them too....

never knew they did all that to themselves on purpose so they could beg better

silly me

but you know the biggest jerkoffs I’ve given to have neen some on this very forum

either downright ungrateful or just shameless

i prefer to give to bums and blind kids

and no...i do not mean freepathons

JR and company are actually undercompensated considering the drama they have to endure


39 posted on 02/22/2012 2:24:25 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: SmithL

well I know I’m considered the forums resident soft assed pu$$y

i give to folks whenever the mood hits me....hungry..dope..bottle...it depends....helps if they are polite

and yes ...in the third world where i where spent 20 years....Colombia...Haiti....Sierra Leone...etc

i gave too....limbless folks....kids with open sores and swollen bellies and rickets

yep gave to them too....

never knew they did all that to themselves on purpose so they could beg better

silly me

but you know the biggest jerkoffs I’ve given to have neen some on this very forum

either downright ungrateful or just shameless

i prefer to give to bums and blind kids

and no...i do not mean freepathons

JR and company are actually undercompensated considering the drama they have to endure


40 posted on 02/22/2012 2:24:41 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: vpintheak

Chances are they will buy drugs,alcohol,cigarettes or all three.


41 posted on 02/22/2012 2:32:17 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: SmithL
Right on guys! I'm no liberal commie b%#^%^#t who needs to feel any responsibility towards those who have fallen on hard times.

I knew a guy once, long time ago now. Nice guy - people remember he could sing the Lord's Prayer so sweetly. Went off to World War II as a 19-year-old kid. Had the back luck to be wet and freezing in a foxhole during the Nazi Ardenne offensive. Saw his buddies blown apart; his best friend died in his arms. Came back and was never the same. One of those guys who jumped whenever a car backfired; woke up in the night screaming. Started drinking to numb the memories. Over the years things went from bad to worse. He bought a six-pack every night after his janitor job and drank himself to sleep in front of the TV; his cigarettes fell from his hands, leaving burning trails in the floor. He lost his family and ended up on the street, still fighting the Battle of the Bulge during feverish dreams under cardboard on the mean streets... And every day as I pass by, I thank God I am not like that that sinner.

42 posted on 02/22/2012 2:36:21 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: wardaddy
well I know I’m considered the forums resident soft assed pu$$y

i give to folks whenever the mood hits me....hungry..dope..bottle...it depends....helps if they are polite

and yes ...in the third world where i where spent 20 years....Colombia...Haiti....Sierra Leone...etc

i gave too....limbless folks....kids with open sores and swollen bellies and rickets

yep gave to them too....

never knew they did all that to themselves on purpose so they could beg better

silly me

but you know the biggest jerkoffs I’ve given to have neen some on this very forum

either downright ungrateful or just shameless

i prefer to give to bums and blind kids

and no...i do not mean freepathons

JR and company are actually undercompensated considering the drama they have to endure

Kudos to you wardaddy! Finally someone on this thread with a heart - and more than a little wisdom, instead of all this arrogant, self-righteous dismissal of those on the lowest rungs of society (yeah, I know - they all "deserve it").

Even though I don't drink beer, I'll sit down with a brew with you ANY DAY rather than all those ridiculous phonies (who pretend they got where they did without God's help and a whole lot of luck).

43 posted on 02/22/2012 2:49:05 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454
And every day as I pass by, I thank God I am not like that sinner.

And for people who don't catch your reference:

My thoughts on panhandlers:
They'll probably just buy alcohol.

Jesus' thoughts on panhandlers:
Give to everyone who asks.

My thoughts on Jesus' thoughts on panhandlers:
Yes, sir! How high, sir!

44 posted on 02/22/2012 2:54:11 PM PST by InMemoriam (The Greek cycle: Agreement Violence Overthrow Repudiation Negotiations)
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To: SmithL

Typical liberal air head.

Vignettes: Macon, GA, ca 1990. Middle Class guy comes up and asks for a few bucks to feed his family and points to a woman and two kids standing in a lot across the street. Wife and I buy four hamburger/fries meals and bring them to her. Woman almost cries in gratefulness. I felt bad as I was trying to put the guy on the spot, thinking it was a scam.

Read of a guy who used to give a business card to those “Will work for food” guys, with the advice to see him for a job. Never was contacted.

Old joke (I think - nowadays I wouldn’t doubt it): Guy selling pencils at 25c each near the entrance of an office building. Guy going to work always drops a quarter in the cup but never takes the pencil. A month or so later, the guy drops his usual quarter, only to be told that “pencils are now 35c each.”

Reading about the Depression, there was a raggedy old black guy who came to the back door of a farmhouse and asked for either a meal or some clothes. The farmer jokingly said that he had both, and for the guy to make a choice. The black guy said, “Well people can see how shabby I am, but they can’t see how hungry I am, so I guess I’ll take the clothes.” He got both.

Last year a well-dressed man approached us for a handout as we parked at MacDonalds. Blew him off and later felt bad. I used to routinely blow people off with the idea that there were plenty of safety nets available. Now, it reminds me of stories people told me of the Depression Days when well-dressed men, looking embarrassed, would ask for a handout - and things are pretty much at that level now in my area.


45 posted on 02/22/2012 2:55:16 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: allmendream; Tijeras_Slim; vpintheak; IronJack; Last Dakotan; KoRn; Vigilanteman; max americana; ...

(Let’s try this again...) Right on guys! I’m no liberal commie b%#^%^#t who needs to feel any responsibility towards those who have fallen on hard times.

I knew a guy once, long time ago now. Nice guy - people remember he could sing the Lord’s Prayer so sweetly. Went off to World War II as a 19-year-old kid. Had the back luck to be wet and freezing in a foxhole during the Nazi Ardenne offensive. Saw his buddies blown apart; his best friend died in his arms. Came back and was never the same. One of those guys who jumped whenever a car backfired; woke up in the night screaming. Started drinking to numb the memories. Over the years things went from bad to worse. He bought a six-pack every night after his janitor job and drank himself to sleep in front of the TV; his cigarettes fell from his hands, leaving burning trails in the floor. He lost his family and ended up on the street, still fighting the Battle of the Bulge during feverish dreams under cardboard on the mean streets. And every day as I pass by, I thank God I am not like that that sinner...


46 posted on 02/22/2012 3:00:45 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Vigilanteman

Agreed on giving to a charity. A couple of ours include the local Union Gospel Mission, and another is specifically for street kids. The one for the kids is Christian, but also a lot of hands-on stuff. They offer job training, etc. They even opened up their own latte place (it is Seattle!) where the kids can get training, work, etc. Our church also helps with the homeless.

A smile and a nod and a quick prayer is all that the folks on the street get from me. Sometimes a bottle of water if out on the street on a hot day.


47 posted on 02/22/2012 3:04:21 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: InMemoriam
My thoughts on panhandlers: They'll probably just buy alcohol.

Jesus' thoughts on panhandlers: Give to everyone who asks.

My thoughts on Jesus' thoughts on panhandlers: Yes, sir! How high, sir!

Well put. Jesus must have been a liberal softy - how naive of Him!

(I'm with Jesus)

48 posted on 02/22/2012 3:04:38 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454

God bless you, tjd1454.


49 posted on 02/22/2012 3:05:10 PM PST by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: tjd1454

And giving him spare change keeps him on the street drunk. Good job!


50 posted on 02/22/2012 3:12:43 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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