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A Berkley Professor Wonders Why More Americans Don’t Accept Abortion
http://liveactionnews.org/culture/a-berkley-professor-wonders-why-more-americans-dont-accept-abortion/ ^ | 3/7/2012 | Calvin Freiburger

Posted on 03/07/2012 7:15:50 PM PST by Morgana

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To: Morgana; Jedidah; ogen hal
his mother chose life
41 posted on 03/07/2012 9:20:59 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MacMattico

nothing personal but while i am very anti abortion (not pro life...some folks need killing)

but the vanguard of abortion activism is hardly the provence of men except male democrats and male abortion providers...a shrinking populace btw

and men simply cannot have abortions and are as/more likely to be found pleading not to have one...especially boyfriends as the woman is to be insisting on having one or she may simply just not tell her sperm provider

husbands have a little more say

women abort their babies with medical assistance...could be a man or just as likely...maybe more so nowadays..a woman doc or PA or NP

any fault of that lies exponentially more with women than men

it is a sad commentary of the kinder gentler bunch since the early 70s....women prior to that would have been very reluctant

something that has become routine whereby perhaps as many as 35% of all women will have had an abortion at some time in their adult pre menopausal lives

and that is the real reason abortion is legal

shiftless men who like the convenience are way down the list on who is the culprit...it is exceedingly rare that men force women to abort babies at gunpoint...I’m sure it has happened and you can maybe find an example but very very uncommon


42 posted on 03/07/2012 9:24:51 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Morgana; All
No wonder liberalism is a mental disorder.

No problem with aborting murdering innocent millions, but howl with indignation when the scum of humanity face the death penalty.

My favorite fron Ronald Reagan:

"I’ve noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born."

43 posted on 03/07/2012 9:25:08 PM PST by QT3.14 (European-American (/sarc))
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To: Vendome

That was beautiful. Thank you.


44 posted on 03/07/2012 9:32:36 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Morgana

In other news, Americans wonder why don’t more Americans refuse to accept Berkeley professors.


45 posted on 03/07/2012 10:14:28 PM PST by Ackackadack
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Most of the pro-abortion people don't want to admit the simple truth. Aside from the cutting edge "ethicists" who advocate for post-birth infanticide; I guess this nut weirdo isn't that "enlightened" yet.

46 posted on 03/07/2012 10:22:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Morgana

A Berkley Professor Wonders Why More Americans Don’t Accept Abortion

Glad you asked.
As Christians (80% of Americans Identify as) we believe it is a sin to murder the innocent
As Americans we side with the underdog/innocent and defend the innocent right to be born and to its life.....
Anything else I c an help you understand Professor just ask......


47 posted on 03/07/2012 10:53:18 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Billthedrill
You make an excellent point. I think one could argue against abortion entirely on non-religious grounds. Like you wrote, a human life is involved. Even without religion, most people would probably agree that killing someone is wrong, because they can empathize with how they'd feel if someone wanted to kill them. In other words, the Golden Rule doesn't have to be based on religious faith.

I think the non-religious case against extra-marital sex is less persuasive. That's probably why more people think it's OK. Even though a large percentage claim to be Christian, they are Christian in name only. They ignore the clear teachings of their religion, so the only thing that would make them oppose sex outside of marriage would be the non-spiritual repercussions.

I suppose one could argue that sex before marriage increases the spread of disease or causes out-of-wedlock pregnancies, both being negative results from a purely secular/non-religious point of view, but one can mitigate those results with birth control and disease prevention. If one is willing to ignore the spiritual ramifications of not doing God's will, then extra marital sex doesn't seem as bad as abortion.

48 posted on 03/08/2012 12:04:59 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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I suppose one could argue that sex before marriage increases the spread of disease or causes out-of-wedlock pregnancies, both being negative results from a purely secular/non-religious point of view, but one can mitigate those results with birth control and disease prevention.

The spectre of a ruined reputation and loss of self respect, and a desire to avoid being "seduced and abandoned," are also "non-religious" incentives for a woman to avoid sex outside of marriage.

49 posted on 03/08/2012 12:08:39 AM PST by thecodont
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Because abortion kills nascent life, you jackass.


50 posted on 03/08/2012 12:23:35 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Morgana

It’s about protecting the weakest among us.

Liberals, you know how upset you get when someone abuses a dog? It’s because dogs trust us and need us, and they are so innocent. You know how you hate it when a gay guy gets bullied? When a black person is a victim of racism?

Well, little unborn humans are precious too. Innocent. Dependent on us, trusting us. They deserve the care you give to dogs. If someone has an unborn baby, and she doesn’t want it, she should not go to a kill shelter. She should find a rescue organization and make sure her unborn baby finds a good home.

Now, liberals, do you get it?


51 posted on 03/08/2012 12:25:23 AM PST by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - we need a STEADY conservative President)
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To: thecodont

Sex before marriage doesn’t damage a woman’s reputation today, not in the eyes of most people. It doesn’t seem to harm most women’s self-respect, though they may be lying to themselves about that.

The idea of “seduction and abandonment” is meaningless in today’s world. It refers to a world in which a women was quite literally “ruined” by losing her virginity before marriage. If the man who seduced her abandoned her, nobody else would have her. She was rejected by respectable society and her options for survival became very limited, with prostitution the most common resort.

Few care today about female (or, of course, male) virginity today. Even on this forum Muslims who still do care about it are portrayed as bizarre. A Muslim who wanted his marriage annulled was viewed as antedeluvian, despite the fact that in much of the West this would have been quite unexceptionable not so long ago.


52 posted on 03/08/2012 5:53:43 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Morgana

I don’t happen to believe it’s psychologically helpful for women to succeed in their careers over the bodies of their dead babies.


53 posted on 03/08/2012 10:44:47 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Morgana

People will rationalize all sorts of evil to get what they want. That is why abortion is legal.


54 posted on 03/08/2012 1:01:32 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: wardaddy

I don’t disagree with you, to go through with an abortion is all on the woman. Just saying why does this loser male Professor think he knows better and can’t understand why we can’t just accept abortion when he really has no say in the matter. Not saying men shouldn’t have a say as it is their baby, too, but this guy doesn’t even act like a baby is human.


55 posted on 03/08/2012 9:05:07 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

I agree with u 100 percent

And nothing warms my own heart more than good women who get it innately


56 posted on 03/08/2012 10:00:09 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Morgana

‘Cuz it’s wrong?


57 posted on 03/09/2012 5:17:47 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: wardaddy

Thanks you!


58 posted on 03/12/2012 5:10:58 AM PDT by MacMattico
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