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A Berkley Professor Wonders Why More Americans Don’t Accept Abortion
http://liveactionnews.org/culture/a-berkley-professor-wonders-why-more-americans-dont-accept-abortion/ ^ | 3/7/2012 | Calvin Freiburger

Posted on 03/07/2012 7:15:50 PM PST by Morgana

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To: Morgana

“can’t you anti-choice yahoos get with the program?”

I guess the learned Prof never heard that you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. Or maybe he just “deconstructed” that myth.


21 posted on 03/07/2012 7:43:45 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Morgana

Well, in his case maybe a retroactive abortion is ok.


22 posted on 03/07/2012 7:43:53 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Morgana
It's Berkeley, numbnuts!

Live Action News needs an editor.

23 posted on 03/07/2012 7:48:06 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Morgana
It is the business of sociology to explain why people behave the way they do. Were the good professor serious about the topic he'd ask a few. Better still, take a course in basic biology.

I want to be patient with him because it is clear that he appreciates the basic question - there is obviously something different between the broad acceptance of sexual activity and a similar acceptance of abortion. Whatever could it be? Um...now let me think. Could it be because the latter involves a dead human being?

A sociologist cannot draw that conclusion. The furthest he can go is to conclude that there is a perception that the killing of a human being is involved. From there it is easy to fall back into the comfort of the position that it's only a matter of perception, and that the perception is likely to be erroneous.

Well, it isn't. It's a matter of stark appreciation of biological fact. That thing isn't undifferentiated tissue, it is a person. I will quote Christopher Hitchens on the issue: if it isn't human, what is it? And if it isn't alive, what is it?

It is, to be sure, a perfectly legitimate sociological question as to why so many of us think that the death of a human being is involved. "Because it is" is a terrifying answer. But it does lead to an equally valid question that I challenge him to ask: why so many think that the death of a human being is not involved.

24 posted on 03/07/2012 7:56:35 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Morgana

I wonder why this Berkley Professor wasn’t aborted.


25 posted on 03/07/2012 8:02:13 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: al_c

With the latest so-called ethicists calling for after-birth abortion at the parent’s whim, it is certainly an anti-life crowd.
Reference:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/something-deadly-this-way-comes-after-birth-abortion-70975/


26 posted on 03/07/2012 8:03:06 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Morgana

Because babies are the least able to help themselves or defend their life.

Because all things want to live and we recognize that quality in us.

Because death is absolute and final.

Because no one would willingly let another human life be taken needlessly or cruelly at the hands of another who has no right to kill.

Because babies are beautiful.

Because babies are cute.

Because babies smell like babies.

Because babies smiling warm any weary soul.

Because babies laughing are infectious, making us laugh as well.

Because babies make baby noises and we just have imitate them.

Because only a loving God would create a baby so beautiful you know that baby represents life.

Because all life has equal value in the beginning, in the middle and at the very end.

Because I love babies.

(well, other peoples babies anyway)


27 posted on 03/07/2012 8:04:27 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Morgana
Maybe because every 'successful' abortion ends up with at least one dead human...

That's a long way from the Hippocratic Oath ("First, do no harm...")

28 posted on 03/07/2012 8:04:48 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Morgana
I'm agin killing babies, born or unborn.

/johnny

29 posted on 03/07/2012 8:08:30 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Morgana
Simple, the vast majority of us are ADULTS who accept responsibility for our actions, not overgrown adult-sized teenagers.
30 posted on 03/07/2012 8:15:35 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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The supporters of slavery never understood the abolitionists either, especially after the SCOTUS put the question to rest after the Dredd-Scott decision. I wonder why those annoying abolitionists didn't give up?

Mark

31 posted on 03/07/2012 8:15:46 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Morgana

Claude

32 posted on 03/07/2012 8:19:29 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Morgana
"It's the 21st century and the Supreme Court has spoken; can’t you anti-choice yahoos get with the program?"

It is zee 1930s and Der Fuhrer has spoken; can't you Joo-loving schwein get vit zee program?

33 posted on 03/07/2012 8:23:32 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Billthedrill
I will quote Christopher Hitchens on the issue: if it isn't human, what is it? And if it isn't alive, what is it?

Easily answered.

Of course it is biologically human. Of course it is alive. Of course it is a human life.

Those are scientific questions with obvious answers.

The question is not whether the fetus is a human life, it is whether it is (or should be) a legal person with the rights of other persons.

This is not a question that can be answered by science, as it is moral, ethical and legal in nature. In fact, it is at root a theological question.

It is entirely logical, though deadly wrong IMO, to believe a fetus prior to the moment of birth is not a person and has therefore no legal rights. Or, more accurately, choosing the moment of birth as the point where such rights are acquired is neither more nor less logical than any other random point. This creates logical problems for proponents of abortion, as we can see from the recent arguments that "post birth abortion" should also be allowed.

Each human life is a continuum from conception to death, whether that death occurs 3 months or 100 years after conception. There is and can be no point on that continuum where it becomes logical to say that life should acquire (or lose) the "rights" of a "person" under the law.

34 posted on 03/07/2012 8:24:00 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Morgana

They understand. This “playing dumb” act is a cynical calculation by some VERY evil people.


35 posted on 03/07/2012 8:38:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Artcore
I’m wondering why this professor doesn’t perform a late term abortion on himself?

Would like to meet his mother so I can kick her arse as to why she brought into this world.

36 posted on 03/07/2012 8:47:44 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Morgana
You don't kill anyone or anything simply because it is convenient.

These fools grew up thinking that steak originates in sealed plastic trays, they know nothing about death, or life, it's all put on someone else's shoulders, the doctor or the butcher or the cop.

Sit at a dinner table with them and discuss killing the cow and they'll ask you to leave. They will curse you as a killer because you hunt, while they eat a Big Mac.

They are able to tell, and believe, the lie that shields their conscience.

They are insane, and they will hate you because you aren't.

37 posted on 03/07/2012 8:49:43 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Morgana

Only a career academic could be so hopelessly blind and consummately ignorant.


38 posted on 03/07/2012 8:50:59 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Sherman Logan
I quite agree. One can avoid the theological element by positing that there is no God (that's actually about the only way to avoid the theological element) but once one concedes the obvious fact that the fetus is a human being one cannot avoid the fundamental ethical question of who decides, live or die? Here the "choice" position appears to me to devolve into the nihilistic sinkhole that the strong decide for the weak. That is, in essence and stripped of its pretensions, the pro-choice position. The strong decide whether the weak live or die.

There we have reached ethical nullity, the position of grunting beasts. I think that we are something more, and for evidence I shall point out to the ethically challenged that those of us who believe and behave otherwise tend to have grunting beasts for supper. There is something to be said for the strong protecting the weak, most notably that it is in the interest of those who were weak, are now strong, and who will inevitably become weak once more. In short, all of us, and those who pretend otherwise are only pretending.

39 posted on 03/07/2012 8:55:10 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: BenLurkin

Bingo. They KNOW that abortion is murder, that is why they never discuss the actual reason people oppose abortion, but rather make it a privacy issue, as the scotus did in its great moment of cowardice.


40 posted on 03/07/2012 8:59:32 PM PST by HerrBlucher (.)
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