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BYU study: Guns don't give people advantage during a bear encounter
Deseret News ^ | March 8, 2012

Posted on 03/08/2012 10:58:38 PM PST by Zakeet

Conventional wisdom isn't always based on common sense, and sometimes isn't even based on real data, especially when it comes to animals of mythological proportions like bears.

BYU wildlife biologist Tom Smith wants to change that.

A new study suggests that one of the most commonly suggested deterrents against bears in the wild — guns — actually won't protect people any better than not using a gun.

"It really isn't about the kind of gun you carry,” he said. “It's about how you carry yourself. We need to respect an animal that could potentially take our lives."

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This isn't the first time Smith has had a study showing that guns aren't as effective against bears as generally believed. In 2008, Smith released a study saying that bear spray is more effective than guns.

Part of the problem is that shooting accurately is very difficult in a terrifying situation like having a giant animal charging at you. Even if you do kill the bear, that's still a problem, given declining populations and the the loss of what a bear can contribute both economically and ecologically.

"It's a conservation issue in that we'll see needless bear mortalities," Smith said.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bear; guns; hunting
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The Looney Left is right ... you Freepers don't need your #%&*# guns when you go hunting ... cause the professor has proven that if you ever face a bear like this one, a simple squirt of pepper spray will convince the beast not to kill you.

1 posted on 03/08/2012 10:58:41 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

What utter hogwash!


2 posted on 03/08/2012 11:01:40 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Zakeet

This guy is so full of it, he has agenda smears in his shorts.


3 posted on 03/08/2012 11:07:08 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Zakeet

I have a can of bear spray. I use it when I walk my dog.

Got menaced up close and personal bout 3 months back down a lonely road by a massive pitbull that made my 100lb. german shepard look small.

The dog stood about 5 feet away from me. I pulled the can, shook it, sprayed, and the cone dissapated before it ever hit the dog. It missed. However, the spray action itself seemd to convince the dog to leave.

Lucky us.

If I go in the woods, I’m bringing my rifle and my .44 magnum.

That is all.


4 posted on 03/08/2012 11:08:01 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Zakeet

As I recall, you should wear bells to scare the bear off. /s


5 posted on 03/08/2012 11:10:17 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: Zakeet
“It's about how you carry yourself. We need to respect an animal that could potentially take our lives."

Timothy Treadwell Syndrome needs to be classified as a mental illness.

6 posted on 03/08/2012 11:12:03 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Zakeet

They do have a point. If you don’t have the right firearm all you’ll do is anger the bear, especially a brown bear. IIRC correctly Lewis and Clark record in their journals how their men found their firearms couldn’t take down one. And who can forget Jeremiah Johnson always trying to find a .50 cal rifle?


7 posted on 03/08/2012 11:12:51 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: Zakeet
"Even if you do kill the bear, that's still a problem, given declining populations.."

If it were true that bear spray would save my life more reliably than a gun I'd be glad to learn. But these jerk's priorities are so bizarre you can't believe a word they say.


8 posted on 03/08/2012 11:15:31 PM PST by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Zakeet
“It's about how you carry yourself

hmm I guess he misinterpreted the saying loaded for bear....

9 posted on 03/08/2012 11:17:02 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Zakeet

I think if I unload 30 rounds from my AK in a bear’s general direction that it will go down.


10 posted on 03/08/2012 11:18:02 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Zakeet
That guy is definitely a candidate for the Darwin Award, looking at his photo with those polar bears.

They'll be calling him the late Professor Tom Smith pretty soon.

11 posted on 03/08/2012 11:18:50 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mkmensinger

The story is that you use pepper spray on black bears, and bells on brown bears. Want to tell the difference between black bear poop and brown bear poop? Black bear poopy is peppery and brown bear poop will have bells in it.


12 posted on 03/08/2012 11:20:02 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Zakeet

They’re probably assuming most bears wear bulletproof vests.


13 posted on 03/08/2012 11:21:36 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Zakeet

Another attack on the right to bear arms?


14 posted on 03/08/2012 11:23:03 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Zakeet

(Even if you do kill the bear, that’s still a problem, given declining populations and the the loss of what a bear can contribute both economically and ecologically.)

So the professor thinks that you getting killed by the bear is better than you killing the bear, because of “what a bear can contribute both economically and ecologically”. Call me crazy, but I think a human being is more precious than a bear, except maybe for the professor! I would gladly trade his worthless hide for a bear any day.


15 posted on 03/08/2012 11:23:15 PM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: Zakeet; kanawa

Well, if you’re Kanawa, a six-inch hunting knife (and a good dog), go a long way.

:-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670661/posts


16 posted on 03/08/2012 11:24:13 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla; MHGinTN; narses; reaganaut; SENTINEL; ...

BYU excellence in academic research ping.


17 posted on 03/08/2012 11:24:28 PM PST by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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To: Zakeet

If correct, Tom Smith’s theory should have predictive value: if he’s a true scientist I suggest he put it to the test against a suitable number of bears in the wild (N>7 at least for statistical significance), and publish the results.


18 posted on 03/08/2012 11:24:44 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Zakeet

What is with the picture on the left, did that guy kill the polar bear cubs as well?


19 posted on 03/08/2012 11:30:57 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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Disregard, I checked out the article, they were knocked out with spray.


20 posted on 03/08/2012 11:33:11 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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