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Haven't seen any Manning/Tebow/Elway threads on Free Republic so I thought I would remedy that.

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Rick Reilly belongs in the Sportswriters Hall of Fame, IMO.

1 posted on 03/20/2012 10:11:05 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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>> Tebow is trade meat this morning

...and I expect he’ll handle this with his usual Christian class and grace and come out ahead... however God defines that for him.

God bless Tim Tebow, and thanks for the post.


2 posted on 03/20/2012 10:18:00 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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IMO, Manning is a big mistake on Elway’s part. Manning is 36, over the hill and injured. He was an excellent QB in his time, but that time is past.


3 posted on 03/20/2012 10:23:59 AM PDT by expat2
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I’m sick about this. I’ve always liked Peyton Manning, but I have no desire to see him replace Tim Tebow. Manning is around 36 years old and coming off a severe injury that caused him to miss all of last season. Tebow is 24, strong and healthy, and showing evidence of becoming a great quarterback within a few years.

I believe John Elway has made a serious error in judgment, and that he will rue the day he bulldozed Tim Tebow out of Denver. Whichever team gets Tim will be really lucky.


4 posted on 03/20/2012 10:24:43 AM PDT by American Quilter (GO SANTORUM! Last true conservative in the race.)
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Rick Reilly is a liberal douche bag.


6 posted on 03/20/2012 10:30:44 AM PDT by EEGator
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Elway is fairly religious...

Say what? What religion is John? To quote Mandy Patankin "I don't think that word means what you think it means."

8 posted on 03/20/2012 10:31:54 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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With Manning's neck on the line, he somehow has confidence the Denver O-line will protect him better than the 2011 O-line that let Tebow get sacked on about 1 in 11 pass attempts.

Manning also must have reason to believe that when he puts the ball in a receivers hands 20-30 yards downfield, the receiver will make the catch.

10 posted on 03/20/2012 10:35:26 AM PDT by fso301
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I agree with the other posters - this is crazy on John Elway's part.

I like Peyton Manning and he was undoubtedly a great player but I think the operative term is "was". No one knows if he'll ever truly come back from last year's injury and I'd be worried that he will re-injure himself on the first sack.

And didn't he have an older brother who had to stop playing football because of some kind of spinal chord problem? Looks like he would be a little concerned about permanently injuring himself.

Tebow, on the other hand, is just starting his career and has an insane amount of potential. Whichever team grabs him is the real winner, long term.

12 posted on 03/20/2012 10:39:34 AM PDT by carolinablonde
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Elway exposed himself as someone of limited mental skills by his resistance to Tebow and his undercutting him at every turn. He was able to land Manning, which is something that everyone probably agrees is a good move, but he went after him so hard because he cannot fathom how to win with Tebow, a man who has a champion's heart, a running back's body and a rocket for an arm. I guarantee you that if Tebow goes to SF, NE, Baltimore or any team with a coach who can think creatively, those franchises would succeed. Elway only knows one thing--classic NFL QB, a guy who hands off or drops back to pass. Manning is one of the best ever at that, and Denver will be stronger if Manning is healthy.

But there are other ways to defeat an opponent, as Denver showed on several occasions last year when they actually installed an offense tailored to Tebow. They broke down defenses, which, in the NFL, are not geared to being pounded with the run and having to defend a ball carrier who might also throw. All they know about that is the occasional HB pass, thrown by someone who is not warm, who is not a QB, and who usually gives it away as soon as they get the toss.

I thought there were a lot of things Denver could do to make their offense with Tebow better. They were just getting started. But Elway had no interest whatsoever in going that way. He was going to spend the entire offseason supposedly teaching Tebow how to be Elway. Tebow isn't Elway. Elway had no mobility. He didn't run over linebackers. He didn't scramble for 15 seconds before finding someone downfield. He knew one thing. Sadly, he still only knows one thing. Football geniuses, like Bellichek and Harbaugh, care about one thing, too. That thing is winning. They find a way. Remember when Brady went out, and NE won about 12 games with Matt Cassell? How has he done in other cities? Harbaugh turned Alex Smith into a great QB. Is Smith any better than he was? No, Harbaugh created plays and situations that allowed Smith to be great. Elway could never do that. He'd have traded Smith, too, and undercut him to the press.

14 posted on 03/20/2012 10:44:51 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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Not too hard to see Elway didn’t/doesn’t like Tim Tebow. The disdain was obvious.

Now there are going to be two big QB dogs in Denver: Elway and Manning.

Let’s see how that works out.


19 posted on 03/20/2012 10:57:49 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Being from Indiana, and a manning fan, I just can’t see why he’s taking the risk of spending the rest of his life drinking his steaks through a straw.

That said, Elway must think Denver is within two years of a Super-Bowl.

The Tebow thing, like or not, has become a HUGE distraction for Denver, too. Don’t forget that the media HATES Christians, and thinks they are stupid and hateful. (It’s a gay thingy).


22 posted on 03/20/2012 11:06:24 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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This is so stupid, Manning will go down and out with one more good tackle with his neck getting in the way of the ground. I’ve been saying that if Manning had 400 touchdown passes instead of 399 he wouldn’t have come back. I don’t think he’s really looking long term. Tebow? God help him.


26 posted on 03/20/2012 11:15:34 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . 2012 for change, this time for the people)
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What is Denver thinking?...

Happy feet and a rubber arm?...

I think Peyton will be a hell of a coach, perhaps that is what Denver is thinking. What did Bill Walsh say...”Peyton interviewed me.”


27 posted on 03/20/2012 11:20:45 AM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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This is going to be a make or break moment for Elway. I don't think that there's going to be any shades of gray, here - either it will be an incredible success, or a failure for which his head will roll.

For all of the back-and-forth on FR, Tebow is just a good, not a great, QB. What he does have, though, is that intangible confidence of knowing how to win. That's infectious and can make a good team great. I've read several interviews with the Broncos who said, approximately, that no matter what the score, they always thought they were in the game. He'll do the same thing whereever he winds up.

The big winner here, I think, is John Fox. He *loved* Jake Delhomme - a pocket passer like Manning - when they were in Carolina.

I'd not want to need to draw up a game plan for a QB like Tebow every week. The fact that the Broncos did, and were pretty successful, speaks as much to Fox's coaching as Tebow's playing.

28 posted on 03/20/2012 11:24:57 AM PDT by wbill
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They have already traded their backup QB Brady Quinn so if they trade Tebow they’ll have to get at least one other QB.

As I’ve posted on other threads, I think Manning and Tebow along w/ another running back would make an extremely potent formation. Two passing and two running potentials.
Tough to defend.


29 posted on 03/20/2012 11:25:43 AM PDT by Vinnie
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Elway & Manning.

The ‘bromance’ of the century?


35 posted on 03/20/2012 11:36:51 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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Manning, of course, has no business picking Denver. Cold-weather town? Green receivers? Thin backfield?

He was puzzled by Tebow's stats. The kid didn't even complete 48 percent of his throws. Peyton Manning completes 65 percent of his.

Receivers are half of the equation on QB pass stats, and Elway's rookie time wasn't all that stellar.

IMO Elway had an issue with being out-loved by some newbie.

39 posted on 03/20/2012 12:01:07 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Manning, of course, has no business picking Denver. Cold-weather town? Green receivers? Thin backfield?

He was puzzled by Tebow's stats. The kid didn't even complete 48 percent of his throws. Peyton Manning completes 65 percent of his.

Receivers are half of the equation on QB pass stats, and Elway's rookie time wasn't all that stellar.

IMO Elway had an issue with being out-loved by some newbie.

40 posted on 03/20/2012 12:01:30 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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I hope Manning flops, because I want to see Elway flop.
His lack of respect and loyalty for Tebow makes me sick.


53 posted on 03/20/2012 1:47:01 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Great expectations. Hope it works out for the Broncos, Manning and Tebow.


55 posted on 03/20/2012 1:53:04 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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I just figured out where the $1.6B that went missing from MF Global. Part of went to pay Manning. Some of it will be spent upgrading an O-line that led the leagues in getting Tebow sacked last year. Tebow. He’s like a running back, and he got sacked all the time last year.

The rest will be spent on receivers.

I’d like an investigation launched into the relationship between John Corzine and John Elway. Now.


57 posted on 03/20/2012 1:55:47 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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