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Report: Saints coach Payton suspended full year, team docked draft picks
WWL-TV ^ | March 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM | Bradley Handwerger

Posted on 03/21/2012 10:04:06 AM PDT by DukeBillie

The NFL handed down its punishment of the Saints today, ending more than two weeks of speculation after the league first announced its wide-ranging investigation into a pay for performance program the franchise ran during a three-year period.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN.com, coach Sean Payton will be suspended for a year, general manager Mickey Loomis eight game and fined $500,000 and the Saints will be docked $500,000 and second draft picks in 2012.

On March 2, the NFL set forth a wildfire of appall and amazement by releasing findings it says clearly points towards the Saints running a bounty program from 2009-11 under former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

In all, between 22 and 27 players were involved in the program.

Initiated in 2009, the year the Saints made the Super Bowl, players were getting paid extra money under the table for big plays that included “cart-offs” and knockouts, according to the NFL.

Those plays earned $1,000 and $1,500, respectively, under the system run by Williams, who occasionally put money in the kitty, the NFL alleges.

At some point during that season, the pool reached nearly $50,000, the report says.

The investigation was brought on after the playoffs when the Saints put big hits on both Arizona quarterback Kurt Warner and Vikings signal-caller Brett Favre.

When asked by the NFL about whether he had any knowledge of the program, the league says Saints general manager Mickey Loomis claimed he did not, but promised to stop it.

A year later, when the NFL says it made Saints owner Tom Benson aware of pay for performance program, Loomis again was asked to stop the program. Again, the NFL says Loomis made no attempt to halt the practice.

Saints coach Sean Payton, meanwhile, is said to have not directly participated in it. He did, however, fail to stop it by instructing his assistant coaches and players that the program was against league rules.

Since the story came to light, both Loomis and Payton have released a joint statement accepting responsibility and declaring that it won’t happen again.

Additionally, Payton and Benson have both been to New York to visit with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, the coach to apologize, the owner to again offer continued cooperation.

Meanwhile, Williams, now with the St. Louis Rams, issued a statement nearly immediately after the initial allegations came out, accepting responsibility as well. He has since met with Goodell, too.


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KEYWORDS: neworleans; nfl; payton; saints
Wow
1 posted on 03/21/2012 10:04:16 AM PDT by DukeBillie
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To: DukeBillie

Who dat?

Ouch dat!


2 posted on 03/21/2012 10:05:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: DukeBillie

contrast with how Selig handled the steroid scandals.


3 posted on 03/21/2012 10:05:56 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: DukeBillie

Greg Williams is suspended indefinitely


4 posted on 03/21/2012 10:07:52 AM PDT by DukeBillie
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To: All

The man behind it all Gregg Williams suspended indefinitely.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 10:08:58 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: DukeBillie

They all should be barred for life ala Pete Rose. Period. What a disgrace!!


6 posted on 03/21/2012 10:17:33 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: DukeBillie
Probably not,but the Rams will have a headhunter system in place for the 2012 season.
7 posted on 03/21/2012 10:22:38 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: DukeBillie

What a bunch of girlified, wussified bull sh*t! This stuff happens in locker rooms all over the NFL...every locker room in the NFL and in just about every college, high school and pop warner league locker room in the country. Not for money...but it happens. It’s football not girls softball.


8 posted on 03/21/2012 10:29:22 AM PDT by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: DukeBillie
The investigation was brought on after the playoffs when the Saints put big hits on both Arizona quarterback Kurt Warner and Vikings signal-caller Brett Favre.

I remember while watching both those games, particularly the game against the Cardinals, and thinking how I'd seldom seen a team go after quarterbacks the way the Saints were. I also thought some roughing penalties should have been called, especially the way they kept hitting Kurt Warner.

People can blabber about how football is a rough game, but games should be won by superior play and not by trying to injure opposing key players>

These penalties are appropriate and there should also be some penalties for the players involved. There was a story about how Peyton Mannings' initial neck injury happened after rough hits in a Redskins game when Williams was the defensive coordinator.

9 posted on 03/21/2012 10:38:03 AM PDT by Will88
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To: pgkdan

The commissioner works for the owners. The owners want more money. You get more money if more games are played —but only if the merchandise remains undamaged. It certainly has nothing to do with player safety.


10 posted on 03/21/2012 10:55:35 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: DukeBillie

People will no longer respect Sean Payton. He’s a disgrace to his game, his team, and his family. Mr Nice Guy is a dirt-bag thug; no better than Michael Vick.


11 posted on 03/21/2012 11:18:45 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: pgkdan
BULL. It's one thing when its a clean hit. It's another when the intention is to HURT and TAKE OUT an offensive player who is defensless...who can't do anything in return.

Have they protected the QB too much? Sure. Have they protected the WR's to much? Yep. But when you are paying players bonus money under the table to injure a guy...an possible END their career? That's too far. Let someone do that in your line of work and see how you like it. Let's see if it's fair and part of the "game."

12 posted on 03/21/2012 11:30:01 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: DukeBillie

Great news! This isn’t Roman Gladiators. But it would be a great proposal for our convicts (Running Man: the movie)


13 posted on 03/21/2012 12:00:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Great news! This isn’t Roman Gladiators. But it would be a great proposal for our convicts (Running Man: the movie)

How about all of Congress in the Hunger Games arena?

14 posted on 03/21/2012 12:09:56 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: DukeBillie; Impy
Makes me more proud that the Bears knocked those bastards out at Soldier Field in 2006 and even in a loss in the SB I got to go to a Super Bowl! Who Dat???

Here's the sad thing is many Bears fans have a lot of respect for Payton since he went to Naperville North High School here in the suburbs. But if they paid for "cart offs"? He should be arrested IMO!

15 posted on 03/21/2012 12:17:36 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go Blackhawks!!!)
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To: pgkdan

There is a difference between hitting someone hard and trying to cause a severe injury or end a player’s career. Only a thug would take pleasure in hurting someone else.


16 posted on 03/21/2012 12:20:25 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: DukeBillie

No first round picks lost (don’t know if they were traded or not), and they keep their Super Bowl championship.

They got off easy.


17 posted on 03/21/2012 12:31:15 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Myth Romney: "Governor Goodhair" is really just a Whig.)
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To: DukeBillie

Strip ‘em of the Super Bowl trophy, and give it to the Vikings who were clearly better the better team, but chose to play by the rules.


18 posted on 03/21/2012 12:47:15 PM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: Will88
Plus, it's a garbage concept, as my friend says.

Real defenses know how to tackle.

Evolution and Extinction in New Orleans

19 posted on 03/21/2012 12:56:32 PM PDT by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: DukeBillie

Payton’s suspension will cost him $7-million dollars in lost salary.

That seems a bit harsh...


20 posted on 03/21/2012 1:17:02 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Beaten Valve
Tell it to Daryl Stingley.
21 posted on 03/21/2012 1:24:07 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: DukeBillie
"Breaking NEWS"?

This NFL crap hardly qualifies as "sports," much less "news."

{snort}

22 posted on 03/21/2012 1:54:00 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: sanjuanbob

Goodell is a light weight also. He knew about this stuff for at least three seasons, apparently. We game watchers have known about the late hits ( think Harrison, Steelers) for longer than that. Fines are OK for a first warning but suspensions and bans should be strkes two and three. I just don’t remember these cheap shots after the whistle during Roselle’s or Tagliabue’s times. I never laced anyone unless they cheapshotted me first——even then I kept it between the refs and between the whistles.


23 posted on 03/21/2012 1:56:07 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Agreed - To try to hurt players is criminal.


24 posted on 03/21/2012 3:02:11 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Dengar01; Perdogg; GOPsterinMA; nickcarraway

Boy oh boy!

RINO spawn Goodell F’d the Saints in the A and gave them Hepatitis!

I wonder if the Saints will think about just canning Payton.


25 posted on 03/21/2012 4:30:37 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

No GM, no HC, no DC. No DC for the Rams either.

Firing makes sense, but who’s going to fire and hire? The owner?

This makes Spygate really look like a slap on the wrist.

I’m curious at what punishments the players get?


26 posted on 03/21/2012 4:36:24 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: Will88

“People can blabber about how football is a rough game, but games should be won by superior play and not by trying to injure opposing key players>”

I agree with you 100 percent.Don’t get me wrong, I know football is a rough game and I love that about it. But the football I started watching about 40 years ago involved a lot more tackling than what I see today. Now all they seem to be able to do is go for the big hit. It is becoming more thuggish every year.

I hope they dole out some harsh penalties for the players involved as well.


27 posted on 03/22/2012 11:01:36 AM PDT by crude77
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