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Wernher von Braun at 100: Legacy of a genius
MSNBC ^ | 3/23/12 | Clara Moskowitz

Posted on 04/02/2012 10:25:16 AM PDT by Borges

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To: trailhkr1

[ Just think of the outcome of our space program if the USSR grabbed all these guys first. ]

They still wouldn’t have made it as far, because the political structure of the Soviet space agency was pretty much wholly paralyzed by party politiks.


21 posted on 04/02/2012 11:21:33 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Westbrook
Invention and History of Rockets - Robert Goddard (1882-1945)
22 posted on 04/02/2012 11:26:15 AM PDT by Errant
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To: alphadoggie

October Sky is also what I think of when I hear of Von Braun. That, and the stuff now on The Military Channel. October Sky is a must see over and over again film, especially for your kids. That movie brought a lot of things to life for me, including Von Braun himself, who was the mostly unseen underlying hero of the film.

And it was a FILM, not a movie, Beautiful telling of a beautiful story without all the over directing folks do today (ahem Tinker Tailor...)


23 posted on 04/02/2012 11:58:15 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Borges

Von Braun’s epitaph, Psalms 19:1

“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.”


24 posted on 04/02/2012 12:07:26 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: Errant
Fabulous picture. Was the color added?

Goddard's interaction with Von Braun and Oberth of the Vereinigung fur Raumschifahrt (society for rocket flight) is well documented in This High Man, a book about Goddard.

They essentially got their start from him. They couldn't understand why American Intelligence people kept asking them questions after the war that Goddard had given them the answers to in the early 1930's - why don't you ask your own guy, they said, don't you know he's the one who came up with it?

Von Braun was a hard line manager and engineer, not a great innovator.

25 posted on 04/02/2012 12:08:29 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Goddard was dead by the end of WWII, von Braun on the other hand, was still alive and able to help the Americans with their space program in competition with the Soviets...


26 posted on 04/02/2012 12:29:01 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: trailhkr1
Just think of the outcome of our space program if the USSR grabbed all these guys first.

The Soviets wouldn't have had a space program without their German scientists, plus stealing other technology from the West. And we wouldn't have realized Von Braun's dream of going to the Moon if it weren't for the Soviets initially beating us in space.

27 posted on 04/02/2012 12:38:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: jboot

I’m sure there was probably a good deal of that going on. Survival is a very strong instinct.


28 posted on 04/02/2012 1:00:29 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: zot

Operation Paperclip


29 posted on 04/02/2012 1:11:00 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: taildragger

“...to get degrees in social justice, and other such gutless studies...”

Engineering is how you make a living off of raw materials. Those degrees are how to make a living off the engineers.


30 posted on 04/02/2012 1:17:49 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Okieshooter
We went on to fire several rockets at Fort Sill that were tracked on radar and our club set the record of 5200 ft.

Was that the "Fort Sill Beta" design that ran on zinc dust and sulfur?

I still have my copy of "Rocketry for Amateurs" that shows how to built that rocket.

31 posted on 04/02/2012 1:36:03 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: trailhkr1
"all these guys"

the Rooskies did grab everything that wasn't nailed down and transported it back to Russia. Actually, even if it was nailed down. It would be interesting what military and scientific secrets they took from the Germans.

32 posted on 04/02/2012 3:37:45 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: backwoods-engineer

It did use zinc and sulfur. A small amount of black powder was used to set it off. We used the wire element from a car cigarette lighter to set it he black powder off. I was not aware that it was called a Fort Siil Beta. Maybe they were using our design in the book since we and another Okla City club were the first that I am aware of firing at Fort Sill.

I would like more info from you book.


33 posted on 04/02/2012 3:57:02 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: KoRn; KevinDavis

Thanks KoRn. Directly or indirectly, all the world's space programs came from his V2. All of them.
Saturn V

34 posted on 04/02/2012 4:29:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Okieshooter
Capt. Brinley's entire book is available free online as PDFs for each chapter.
35 posted on 04/02/2012 6:34:26 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
I still have my copy of "Rocketry for Amateurs" that shows how to built that rocket.

So do I. It's locked away in my safe right now. To show you how times have changed, it was a gift from my school guidance counselor when I was in junior high.

I had learned a lot through trial and error and was up to the KNO3/C6H12O6 and aluminum bodies level when I received the book.

36 posted on 04/02/2012 8:45:57 PM PDT by Errant
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As I understand it, the Germans found a wealth of information in a book/pamphlet that Goddard had publish?

On the picture, it's one that I found online. They had the capability to make fantastic color images in his time through the use of multiple plates for the basic colors I believe. I'm not sure what process was used for this particular image.

One thing I learned at the link I posted about Goddard was that he had patented the gyro and vane in the exhaust control system. It's what the Germans used initially in the V2 and made from carbon, IIRC.

37 posted on 04/02/2012 8:57:44 PM PDT by Errant
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To: backwoods-engineer
If you try to grab the entire book at the link provided, you get this:


38 posted on 04/02/2012 9:07:43 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Yes, Megaupload has been snatched by the Feds, so you have to download one chapter at a time.


39 posted on 04/03/2012 9:03:45 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Okieshooter

Not sure if it’s the same book, but I have a 1959 copy of “The Rocket Handbook for Amateurs” by Lt. Col. Charles M. Parkin, Jr. This book has a forward by Wernher Von Braun, and it details building a liquid fueled rocket. My copy is signed by the author to the man who gave it to me in 1975.

Is this the book you refer to?


40 posted on 04/03/2012 5:04:27 PM PDT by LifePath
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