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Catholic Priest Says A Schoolgirl Who Went Missing In 1983 Was Kidnapped For Vatican Sex Parties
Business Insider ^ | May 22, 2012 | Michael Kelley

Posted on 05/22/2012 9:35:18 AM PDT by Altariel

The Catholic Church's leading exorcist priest asserts that a Vatican employee's daughter thought to be buried in a mob boss's tomb was kidnapped for Vatican sex parties, reports Nick Pisa of the Daily Mail.

Father Gabriel Amorth, who was ordained in 1954 and has carried out more than 70,000 exorcisms, made the claim to Italian newspaper La Stampa as police examine the contents of mobster Enrico De Pedis's tomb for clues about the 1983 disappearance of 15-year-old Emanuela Orlandi.

Father Amorth, 85, noted that an archivist at the Vatican previously admitted to recruiting girls for parties and told La Stampa newspaper the he believes that Orlandi "ended up in this circle" and that the "case of sexual exploitation" led to her murder followed by "the hiding of her body," according to the Daily Mail.

Father Amorth also said that "diplomatic staff from a foreign embassy to the Holy See" were also involved.

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1 posted on 05/22/2012 9:35:32 AM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Libertarians are scum. Just sayin.


2 posted on 05/22/2012 9:41:15 AM PDT by Jones511
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To: Jones511

Anyone who kidnaps a minor and forces him or her to work in the sex “trade” is wicked.


3 posted on 05/22/2012 9:43:13 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

The Catholic Church is a hot mess.

And I thought priests were only interested in boys?


4 posted on 05/22/2012 9:43:19 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: Altariel

As a Catholic i have to just pray its not true.


5 posted on 05/22/2012 9:43:35 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Altariel

Let’s see.

Yesterday the news was that several Catholic organizations are suing the feds for infringement of their Civil Rights.

Today this story comes out.

I question the timing.


6 posted on 05/22/2012 9:44:25 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: keats5

Good point.


7 posted on 05/22/2012 9:46:40 AM PDT by iceskater (I am a Carnivore Conservative - No peas for me. (h/t N.Theknow))
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To: keats5

I condemn sexual exploitation of minors, by by any person or group.

Don’t sexually exploit children or teenagers and you never have to worry about it “coming to light” at “inconvenient” times.


8 posted on 05/22/2012 9:48:31 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Oh I agree, but libertarians are still worthless pieces of garbage and scum, who like to paint with broad brushes due to their ingrained atheism, hatred of ordered liberty and hedonistic desires.

Libertarians are filth. Moreover, the libertarian party platform promotes the perversion from the blog that you cite as authoritative.


9 posted on 05/22/2012 9:48:56 AM PDT by Jones511
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To: iceskater

Which is more important: getting justice for the victims or not releasing news of crimes committed when it is “inconvenient timing” for the perpetrating individual or group?


10 posted on 05/22/2012 9:50:10 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Major problem here. 70,000 exorcisms? Do the math. That is impossible, no matter how long he has been a priest. If he’s lying about that, how credible is his new story?


11 posted on 05/22/2012 9:50:26 AM PDT by NY Cajun
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To: NY Cajun

Libertarian hedonists hate God, the church and ordered liberty. They don’t care about the truth of the story. Bald assertions in blogs are enough, because it promotes the agenda.


12 posted on 05/22/2012 9:52:15 AM PDT by Jones511
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To: Jones511

The victim is not a libertarian. The Catholic church is not a libertarian organization.

I find it concerning that your posted reaction pegs you as being more concerned about the political leanings of the author of the piece than you are about sexual exploitation of minors.


13 posted on 05/22/2012 9:52:15 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Jones511
WTF brought that screed on?
14 posted on 05/22/2012 9:53:30 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: NY Cajun

Every single person now living has lied at one point of their lives or another. If the criteria for not testifying about the sexual exploitation or murder of another was “if you have lied in your past, we cannot trust your testimony”, no one could be a reliable witness.

If you have evidence that he has lied about what happened to the girl, post it.

But you don’t have evidence of him lying in the first place, only assertions of lying.


15 posted on 05/22/2012 9:55:54 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
Father Gabriel Amorth, who was ordained in 1954 and has carried out more than 70,000 exorcisms,

That is a heck of a lot of exorcisms

Ought to be in the Guiness Book of Records
16 posted on 05/22/2012 9:56:27 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Altariel

The source for this article has been a priest for 58 years...and performed 70,000 exorcisms?

Assuming he worked at it 6 days a week, he would have had to perform 4 exorcisms a day, solid, for 58 years!

When the little things don’t seem believable, I question the big things.


17 posted on 05/22/2012 9:56:59 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: NY Cajun

8 a day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_Amorth


18 posted on 05/22/2012 9:57:02 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Altariel

Are you a libertarian?

Wait, we both know the answer to that.

Frankly, I care what you think is “concerning.” The fact is, you have a bald assertion from a dubious source that was reprinted in a blog. You desperately want this to be true, and you pretend to take the high ground, when in reality you just want to trash the church.

Libertarians are scum.


19 posted on 05/22/2012 9:57:20 AM PDT by Jones511
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To: Altariel

Mmmm, (book: The Final Conclave) assassination by poison of Pope John Paul 1 while inside the Vatican and now this?


20 posted on 05/22/2012 9:58:12 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Altariel
But you don’t have evidence of him lying in the first place, only assertions of lying.

OH THE IRONY!!!

Hey libertarian wacko, are you smart enough to see the irony in this statement?

NOPE!

21 posted on 05/22/2012 9:58:30 AM PDT by Jones511
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To: Jones511

A person who sexually exploits a minor shows he (or she) does not fear God by his (her) actions.

The person who condemns such actions, regardless of political leanings, shows a greater fear of God than the perpetrator possesses.


22 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:04 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: NY Cajun

23 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:27 AM PDT by Senator Pardek ( It might be hard for some of the younger Freepers to believe, but in 1982)
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To: keats5
You're right to question the timing. The story about Arkansas dems possibly losing control has generated a WaPo story about the 1857 Arkansas Mormon massacre. The media is in the hands of the evil.
24 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:50 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Altariel

You have no evidence, just bald assertions.

Libertarians are scum.


25 posted on 05/22/2012 10:00:25 AM PDT by Jones511
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To: Altariel

If this priest was ordained in 1954 let’s assume that he began doing exorcisms no earlier than 1962. That’s 50 years of exorcising. In that time he has performed over 70,000 exorcisms? That’s 1400 exorcisms a year or 3.84 exorcisms a day including weekends. This is such a preposterous assertion that it renders the rest of the article incredible.


26 posted on 05/22/2012 10:01:38 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Jones511

Ironic?

Assertions are not evidence. That poster asserted that the priest lied without evidence.

We have testimony from a Catholic priest that sexual exploitation of minors occurred. God-fearing people loudly condemn such activity, and do not defend it or harbor people who practice it.

I find it concerning that you have more objections to whom shone the light than whom was cowering in the darkness with their victims, forgetting they claimed to serve an omniscient and omnipresent God who exposes all sin.


27 posted on 05/22/2012 10:02:55 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: NY Cajun

He may be counting waving his hand over someones head. I agree no way the full process. You click the clink near the start of the story and it goes to the Daily Mail article. Much more information.
He may be crazy or whatever but that does not mean he’s incorrect on this matter. He became ordained in 1954. That puts the events right in the middle of his career. For all we know this might be a confession.


28 posted on 05/22/2012 10:04:48 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Jones511

“Libertarians are scum.” - J5

Listen carefully dipstick - Libertarians did not do this evil nor would they. Kidnapping, sexual assault, and murder are not consistent with libertarian principles.
Genius.

AMF


29 posted on 05/22/2012 10:06:28 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: wiggen

He also may be counting prayer for groups, and praying that those suffering from demon possession may be exorcised.

However he is counting the numbers, I doubt all the counts come from one-on-one full exorcisms.


30 posted on 05/22/2012 10:07:47 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: keats5

Except that the source publication tends to lean way right, and, in order for your theory to work, an elderly priest would have to be in cahoots with the Obama administration.

That’s really a stretch.


31 posted on 05/22/2012 10:10:00 AM PDT by Jedidah ("In those days Israel had no king. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.")
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To: Jones511

Thank you for reminding the forum that you are more bothered by people whose political leanings are different from yours than you are bothered by people who sexually exploit minors.


32 posted on 05/22/2012 10:10:21 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Inwoodian

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2148071/Missing-girl-15-buried-murdered-mobsters-tomb-kidnapped-Vatican-sex-parties-claims-Catholic-Churchs-leading-exorcist-priest.html#ixzz1vbWDsf

the original article.
Just because one statement seems wrong (to me as well) does not mean they all are. Just as i won’t grant a blanket acceptance i will also not blankly condemn every assertion. All we know is he’s had difficulty sounding sane in his later years. The events may be from memory.


33 posted on 05/22/2012 10:10:57 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Jones511

Get off your high horse noob, you yourself are painting with a pretty broad brush.


34 posted on 05/22/2012 10:11:55 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: wiggen

The Catholic Church’s leading exorcist priest has sensationally claimed a missing schoolgirl thought to be buried in a murdered gangster’s tomb was kidnapped for Vatican sex parties.

Father Gabriel Amorth, 85, who has carried out 70,000 exorcisms, spoke out as investigators continued to examine mobster Enrico De Pedis’s tomb in their hunt for Emanuela Orlandi.

Last week police and forensic experts broke into the grave after an anonymous phone call to a TV show said the truth about Emanuela’s 1983 disappearance would be ‘found there’.

And although bones not belonging to the mobster were recovered they have not yet been positively identified as hers.

However Father Amorth, in an interview with La Stampa newspaper, said: ‘This was a crime with a sexual motive.

‘It has already previously been stated by (deceased) monsignor Simeone Duca, an archivist at the Vatican, who was asked to recruit girls for parties with the help of the Vatican gendarmes.

‘I believe Emanuela ended up in this circle. I have never believed in the international theory (overseas kidnappers). I have motives to believe that this was just a case of sexual exploitation.

‘It led to the murder and then the hiding of her body. Also involved are diplomatic staff from a foreign embassy to the Holy See.’

Today there was no immediate response from the Vatican to Father Amorth’s claims.

But Vatican officials insisted they had always co-operated with the investigation into Orlandi’s disappearance - a claim that her brother has often disputed.

(excerpted from the link above)


35 posted on 05/22/2012 10:15:22 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Jones511

go take a flying leap you pile of vile human garbage...screw you and anybody that looks like you


36 posted on 05/22/2012 10:16:10 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: Jones511

you sir are an idiot of the highest degree.... sign up 2 months ago to sow the seeds of hate in this site.... go to hell and take your crappy attitude with you... chump


37 posted on 05/22/2012 10:17:56 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: Jones511

my god, how ignorant can one person be? You are the loser by which other losers are judged. you are a vile piece of crap


38 posted on 05/22/2012 10:19:30 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: Altariel; Salvation; NYer; Chode

If there is any truth to this story why does this priest tell this now?

The thing to do is blow the whistle when the child is being harmed.


39 posted on 05/22/2012 10:19:39 AM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Jones511

no, it is you sir that are scum.... scum so deeply embedded into itself that even the vile smell cannot escape...


40 posted on 05/22/2012 10:21:11 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: TSgt

‘An archivist at the Vatican’ is not a priest necessarily.


41 posted on 05/22/2012 10:21:51 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Jones511
 

Libertarians are scum.


 

 
 
For the record - I agree with you. (See tagline)
 

But how you hijacked this thread with your screeds is beyond me.
 
 
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42 posted on 05/22/2012 10:21:58 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: TSgt

‘An archivist at the Vatican’ is not a priest necessarily.


43 posted on 05/22/2012 10:22:08 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Jones511

the only irony here is that you are allowed to post on this site... this site is reserved for people with a minimum of a double digit IQ... you fail, now get lost


44 posted on 05/22/2012 10:22:46 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: lacrew
The source for this article has been a priest for 58 years...and performed 70,000 exorcisms?

Assuming he worked at it 6 days a week, he would have had to perform 4 exorcisms a day, solid, for 58 years!

When the little things don’t seem believable, I question the big things.

I'd say he is nuts. Claiming one exorcism makes him a nut in my book. Claiming 70,000 is simply incontrovertible proof.

45 posted on 05/22/2012 10:26:31 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: lacrew

is that a number of demons maybe, rather than the number of times he performed the rite?

if there’s multiple spirits in a single subject or home, i would think that would really cut down on how often he had to do it.


46 posted on 05/22/2012 10:26:49 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: NY Cajun

That seems a bit high. I am not sure Fr. Malachi Martin did that many.

http://fathermalachimartin.com/


47 posted on 05/22/2012 10:27:52 AM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: wiggen
I not Catholic, but my heart aches for the church and for all those who have been sexually victimized. Not only by the Catholic church but Protestant as well.

I know someone very well that was abused in this manner. His life spiraled horribly out of control after the abuse as a child. Sexual immorality, divorce, drug and alcohol addiction...you name it.

Priest or the abuser can be forgiven and continue on celebrating fully in the sacraments of the church....He (the victim) cannot.

Just so sad. When will the Holy See provide remedy and provision for these who just want to receive the holy elements of the covenant meal.

I continue to pray for him, for the church and her leadership, for the abusers.

48 posted on 05/22/2012 10:28:29 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: TSgt
The Catholic Church is a hot mess.
And I thought priests were only interested in boys?

If you know someone who is not screwed up
I want to meet them
There is Evil in ALL of our Hearts
Especially mine , I can see it...

There may have been one without evil,
but we killed Him about 2100 yrs ago,
and He came back anyway.

49 posted on 05/22/2012 10:29:00 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I'd say he is nuts. Claiming one exorcism makes him a nut in my book. Claiming 70,000 is simply incontrovertible proof.

I wonder if that was 70,000 different demons? Or one very persistent one?
50 posted on 05/22/2012 10:30:14 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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