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To: samtheman
For those reasons I want him out. But that’s just me. I’m biased against an ineligible president holding office illegally while hating America and making “after the election” promises to our enemies. It’s a personal bias. I understand that. I’m not trying to convert anybody to my bias. I’m just confessing it here.

It's not a personal bias; it's rational. Consider the military-man, with an ineligible president his entire chain of command is violated and has no integrity: this is due to the nature of authority, which is delegated from the Constitution to the president and from thence to the officer and from the officer to the NCO. As it stands, there is virtually no such thing as a [lawful] legitimate order. The notable exception would be those orders stemming directly from the Constitution; the General for the continental US could issue orders to his men to secure with deadly force the AZ border because Art 4 Sec 4 requires the federal government to protect states from invasion.

That said; we have a military whose justice system is so compromised that it will not allow an officer to even question the legitimacy of the president to be Commander in Chief.

But that is par-for-course, we have a congress which refuses to rip open the ATF/DEA/FBI over unauthorized acts of war, conspiracy, sedition, and [arguably] treason. {murdergate/fast & furious}

We have a judicial system which refuses to allow challenges to statutes that are clearly contrary to the respective constitution by denying 'standing'.

We have an executive whose "law enforcement" officers view the general population as unconvicted culprits and disregard the 4th amendment on such a regular basis that I'm almost surprised when I hear of a 4th Amendment win.

So then, I have to conclude that Obama is exactly the President that we-as-a-nation deserve, given that we-as-a-nation allow and in many cases condone the illegitimate actions of the government. (A good example would be the "prohibited class" or persons in firearm law: felons who have served their time, people convicted of misdemeanors in "domestic violence," and even those who are unconvicted but have only a restraining order placed on them for alleged domestic violence.)

If we want it different, then we need to really humble ourselves and "turn from our wicked ways" seeking real Justice.

38 posted on 05/23/2012 10:26:06 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Good post #38. Very good ideas there, in my opinion.

On the question of what I call my personal bias, I understand what you are saying but I prefer to continue calling it a bias because it’s my way of opting out of the argument of whether or not conservatives should support Romney.

I don’t want to argue that issue, so when it comes up I just state what I think about Obama, why I think he must be removed from office no matter what, and label my reasoning on the subject my personal bias.

I really don’t want to get into an argument with anyone who prefers to focus on the problems with Romney instead of the problems with Obama. I just don’t want to get in that argument. I prefer just to state my personal bias, that I don’t want Obama to be president anymore because he’s illegal, hates America and is making “after the election” promises to our enemies.

40 posted on 05/23/2012 10:37:01 AM PDT by samtheman
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