Posted on 06/04/2012 10:05:51 AM PDT by jongaltsr
Zip. Nada. Nothing.
It does give us some information on the above-ground atmosphere.
Nothing for underground.
Any seismic devices included?
/johnny
Methane is a hydrocarbon. But it is a simple, not a complex hydrocarbon as you stated.
/johnny
You have a good night.
I’m not interested in arguing over something no one as found.
We'll move on to establishing whether there is or is not more complex hydrocarbons.
And.... that's still up in the air, so to speak (methane, if you want to be correct).
/johnny
I think there is.
Have a good evening, and thank you for the discussion.
/johnny
/johnny
when the organic debris remains in contact with sufficient oxygen, it eventually goes to the lowest energy state, carbon dioxide, water, sulfur dioxide, etc. When sediment at the bottom of the lake/ocean cover over and bury the organics away from a source of oxygen, we get hydrocarbons.
Reminds me of the frozen methane deposits at the bottom of our own oceans.
Since we are pulling oil from 7 miles below where any trace of dead dinosaur may have once died and decayed, we know the origin of oil isn’t from dinosaurs.
Full stop.
Bottom line: We don’t know how oil was formed.
Add that to the mountain of stuff we thought we knew about and didn’t. Salt’s good for you now as well, if you didn’t get the memo. Scientist said so.
Credibility is getting thinner every day for modern science.
Thought you might find these Van Flandern papers interesting, EATB.
YMMV. Mine was pretty poor.
/johnny
We know the planet consists of a large amount of hydrocarbons.
We know that 'gravity' and 'heat' from the 'core' of the Earth make the depths of the planet a giant pressure cooker.
That liquid hydrocarbons would be produced and force their way 'up' through the more solid matter (running away from the heat?) seems to make a lot of sense.
When I was a kid in school and even when I was in college, we were taught that oil and coal came fromt he same source, biomass conversion. The fossilized leaves, etc. found in coal were shown as proof positive. Interesting how such myths take hold and are so difficult to shake off.
If the Bakken formation is around 350 million years old, it only required an inch of new sediment every 2762 years to build up to a depth of two miles in all that time.
As I understand it, the standard theory is that oil was formed from algae, not trees and animals.
Well... isn't that pretty much true?
Coal-in it's various forms, oil-in it's various forms, come from biomass. Although that may not be the only 'source' for coal/oil.
Diamonds were supposed to be formed by tremendous heat and pressure deep within the Earth. Now we think it may have been produced by meteorite impacts. After all, many diamonds were found on the surface. Maybe they were formed also, by both.
Many things that we 'were' taught , we now know are not true. Many things we know 'now', are not true either.
At least when we were young, teachers TRIED to tell us the 'accepted' truth. Nowadays, it seems most 'teachers' are only concerned with paychecks and politics.
Well, maybe not the algae themselves, but algae poop.
Even more likely is that oil is formed from bacteria. After all, SOMETHING ate all the oil from the BP leaking seafloor well. Maybe oil is produced from algae and bacteria poop.
Hydrogen is the building block for just about everything in the world. Guess it was designed (can I say - by God) to be that way.
It is the purest form of energy (EVER) devised and we have an ocean full of the stuff.
yes. Algae, moss (from bogs) and just about any other type of vegetation that got trapped beneath the surface and worked its way (through the eons) down close to the earths molten core.
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